smarty156 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hi smarty156Did you manage to fit your L7 tweeters?? and if so how did you do it?? Cheers Not yet. Combination of lack of time and not knowing yet how to get the door card off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The battery is in the boot so if you put the amp in the boot, no problems with trying to get the positive cable into the engine compartment! battery is in the boot??? my e60 530d where?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarty156 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 battery is in the boot??? my e60 530d where?? Right hand side behind the removable trim as you look in the boot. The first aid kit is attached to the back of the removeable trim (well, it is on my E61 530d). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 oh yeah...shows im a bmw virgin...makes the install a whole lot simpler... removing the centre front maple wood trim still scares me though i guess there are plastic trim removal tools out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarty156 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 oh yeah...shows im a bmw virgin...makes the install a whole lot simpler...removing the centre front maple wood trim still scares me though i guess there are plastic trim removal tools out there... I think just a flat blade screwdriver with a rag round it, pop the outside end off and then pull it off working towards the middle. Removal of the trim and radio etc I know how to do - it's the door card I'm not sure about, especially as it has an airbag in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 boy ..just visited my local dealer..they do all sound ignorant. After a bit of hassle they told me price of these tweeters are £25 each plus vat... Also i have a scratch in my high gloss maple wood trim (long centre bit)..cost for a new one a whopping £145 plus vat!!!! Price of this when new is only £115 for the full wood set... Now i know why people call these dealer ships.. stealerships... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 I think just a flat blade screwdriver with a rag round it, pop the outside end off and then pull it off working towards the middle. Removal of the trim and radio etc I know how to do - it's the door card I'm not sure about, especially as it has an airbag in it! yes messing with the airbag scares me too.. safety being number one and all that.... hi gizze will this system still sound good with the uprated subs but without the tweeters??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 No, not really, the speakers in the car at the moment are mid range only, there is no top end at all. I would rather add the tweeters and 2 channel amp than add the 5 channel amp, subs and no tweeter. The airbags are on the door, not the card. Simply undo the screws, get a blunt knife under the door card at the bottom and pull away. Work your way round the card, then when you get so just the top of the card is connected pull up and away and it comes off. Undo the handle wire and pop out the puddle light and undo the speaker cable. Pop the tweeter in and do back up. Takes 12-15 minutes for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarty156 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 boy ..just visited my local dealer..they do all sound ignorant. After a bit of hassle they told me price of these tweeters are £25 each plus vat... Are you sure that's for the Logic 7 tweeters? I think you'll find that's for the Hi-Fi speakers. Logic 7 ones are about £35 + VAT each. The Logic 7 ones are called Top Hi-Fi on the BMW parts list. Here's the part number: Single parts f front door top-hifi syst. I think they've quoted you for these: Single parts f front door hifi system Don't get the wrong ones as they're non-returnable (the Logic 7 ones have to come form Germany). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Hey..cheers mate youre right...i thought they were L7 because they had a cable... And he was being a bit of an a*** saying "Under no circumstances are these returnable..." thats why i hesitated in buying them Also when i asked for the part numbers he point blank refused to give me them what a total a***... Thanks mate i was going to order the wrong ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Gizze for the E90etc. when you don't have the hifi set-up you don't have a space to put the tweeters or at least no where with a grill. On mine its a solid piece of plastic that continues all up across the top of the door. If I was to do this does the replacement trim replace all of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yeah you need to order that part too, comes in two parts, the door surround trim and the grille. Around £50 with discount for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Also i have a scratch in my high gloss maple wood trim (long centre bit)..cost for a new one a whopping £145 plus vat!!!!Price of this when new is only £115 for the full wood set... But that is because there will be a trim strip of some sort on the car, even if you don't take the wood option. So if the basic trim strip costs £30 and the wood one costs £145 then the additional cost to replace the basic one with a wood one is £115. So the option cost is less than the replacement cost. There is also the fact that a replacement part needs to be transported from Munich to the dealer and (possibly) stored at the dealer until someone wants one. For a part on a new car, the transport is already paid for and there is no stock/storage overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 That is like saying.... I paid £180 to upgrade the wheels from 17 to 18" and when I went to order a set of 18's they wanted to charge me £1200!! If it is a scratch in the gloss try and buff it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Yeah you need to order that part too, comes in two parts, the door surround trim and the grille. Around £50 with discount for both sides. Nice one cheers, will give them a call soon. Or do I get a new lens .... oh the choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarty156 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hey..cheers mate youre right...i thought they were L7 because they had a cable...And he was being a bit of an a*** saying "Under no circumstances are these returnable..." thats why i hesitated in buying them Also when i asked for the part numbers he point blank refused to give me them what a total a***... Thanks mate i was going to order the wrong ones... No worries. Yeah, the first place I went to were pretty off about doing them. Said they couldn't be retro fitted, had different connectors blah blah... Needless to say I went elsewhere, told them the part I needed and no problem. It did confuse me that the Hi-Fi tweeter was shown with a cable and the L7 shown without. However, the L7 definitely comes with a cable and plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Simply undo the screws... Anything more specific out there gizze or do you know the location of the screws on the E60.. i dont see any:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Search on E60 Information Network forum for a guide, there is one on there for removing door cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 cheers gizze took some time out to search and found some good stuff on there. One more quick question... How did you get the cables back to the amp in the boot..Did you have to remove anything?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 search "blaupunkt" on here and you will see what needs removing. I presumed you had seen that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFirstBeemer Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Update on my situation: Still waiting for subs.. tweeters not yet bought though am more confident about fitting them now.... amp and cable know where just need to order.. amassing information now before i take the plunge and actually do it on my E60..time allowing..bugger working full time... Another q gizze... How did you fit your amp?? did it just fit behind the boot trim or did you have to create any special enclosure..? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Mine is just tucked in the side, sits in a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) Hi ya, If a car has hifi upgrade (not L7 or DSP), are the subs wired seperatly? saving having to run the new sub wires? Just thinking if getting the Hifi-DSP-Pro upgrade on a new car is worth it or not. Just re-read the thread and answered my own question..... R T F M ! Edited July 24, 2008 by Biscuits I'm a numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Yeah they are, however you will have to rip that amp out completely and put in a 5 channel amp that can take a balanced hi-level input, and there are not many of them. I would go basic and upgrade yourself or L7, trying to change the hi-fi option is a bit of a chore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Yeah they are, however you will have to rip that amp out completely and put in a 5 channel amp that can take a balanced hi-level input, and there are not many of them. I would go basic and upgrade yourself or L7, trying to change the hi-fi option is a bit of a chore. I'm looking at a car with DSP-Pro, so hopefully won't need to change anything. Had my first proper listed to the DSP-Pro and it's pretty impressive even listening to Kiss FM Chrome spinners and limo tints an option on a M3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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