sjnathan Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi All, I've just bought myself an 05 plate A4 3.0TDI Quattro S-line and am planning on doing a few upgrades.... I've read a few posts regarding the possibility of installing Cruise and the Trip Computer stalk and so i just wanted to clarify a few bits if possible... If i get a MultiFunction Steering Wheel, Cruise stalk, Trip Stalk, lower cowling, do i still need a SCSM (what is an SCSM)? Does anyone have any part numbers to hand and also the best place to buy them from (cheapest) :-) Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kite Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Steering Column ? Module Send a PM to shark90....he's the man for retrofits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 SCSM = Steering Column Switch Module You will already have an SCSM, but it might not be a version that supports MFSW, cruise and trip (I had to swap the SCSM in my 2005 S4 when I retrofitted cruise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnathan Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks for the replies... How did you find out if your SCSM was the right version or not, presumably part numbers? Cheers Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 How did you find out if your SCSM was the right version or not, presumably part numbers? Yes, pulled off the part number (the suffix letters are the important bit) with VAG-COM and compared that with the part numbers and option codes on ETKA. Then I tried recoding it to see if it would take the cruise coding - when the coding wouldn't take then I knew it needed updating (if the coding took but produced a fault code then the module I had would have been OK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4Ade Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Simon, I recently completed this retrofit (not the MFSW, but the Cruise and DIS). Here are the part numbers for the parts I had to buy: Cruise stalk (4E0 953 521 4PK) £21.20+ vat Steering wheel Control Module (8E0 953 549 N / 8E0 953 549 P) £95.32 +vat Screws x2 (N 909 068 02) 4p +vat These 3 can now be bought as a kit for about £95 +vat. Only worth it of course if you do need the new SCSM, otherwise just buy the stalk and screws. Best way to check is to use VAGCOM to scan the module number - if it's "8E0 953 549 F" then you DO need a new one. Don't bother asking Audi to check against your Reg No. cos they tend to tell you the CURRENT replacement part no., not the original, so often get it wrong). As a last resort, take off the steering wheel and have a look at the sticker on the part! Trim (8E0 953 512 P) £22.15+ vat Get whoever you buy it from to colour match this against your VIN Saloon DIS wiper stalk (4E0 953 503 B 4PK) £57.90+vat Pin one ground wire (000-979-009) £1.12+vat Washer sensor 7M0 919 376 (about £6) I bought them from Vagparts.com (except for the washer sensor which I forgot to order so got it from Audi). As far as I'm aware, unless you have the RNS-E satnav system then the MFSW is pretty useless - controls stereo volume and that's about it - not worth the money in my opinion. I could be wrong though There's loads of info on doing the install on the web, including on this forum. I found the various coding steps took a bit of working out though, so I put together the following guide, if it's any use: Audi A4 DIS / Cruise Control Retrofit VAGCOM Coding Cheers, Ade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Saloon DIS wiper stalk (4E0 953 503 B 4PK) £57.90+vat Note if you have an Avant the part number is different, since the Avant has a rear wiper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnathan Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Ade, Superb, thanks for putting all this info together for me in a single post, much appreciated. Looks like i need to find out what i have at the moment then... As for the MFSW, i thought it did more than the stereo (i currently have the BOSE Symphony) and so if this isn't the case then i agree with you, not worth it, just do the 2 stalks (Cruise & DIS) and take it from there. Thanks again Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4Ade Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 As for the MFSW, i thought it did more than the stereo (i currently have the BOSE Symphony) and so if this isn't the case then i agree with you, not worth it I read the following on the website of a retrofitting company, re the Audi A4 B6 MFSW: "Please note: You will need the RNS-E Sat Nav for the MFSW to function properly in this vehicle. otherwise only the volume control will work." Please don't take my word for it, as I don't have one and have not seen one in use! Cheers, Ade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjnathan Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks for that extra bit on info. Just to check, which car do you have i.e. is it around an 05 plate B6 etc...? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4Ade Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks for that extra bit on info.Just to check, which car do you have i.e. is it around an 05 plate B6 etc...? Cheers It's a 1.8T Sport. It's only a 53 plate, but is still a B6. If you're uncertain about the parts being the same then, if you do go with VagParts, I found them to be pretty good as far as making sure you get the correct bits. They are not the fastest for delivery, but then I think that is partly to do with them buying in bulk from Germany and is how they can offer low prices. If you do go with them, one word of advice though - check that they will use a carrier that, should you not be home when they deliver, your ~£200 worth of kit is not just left sat on your porch! Ade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 The MFSW does volume and preset/frequency on the stereo (Concert II, Chorus II, Symphony II & RNS-E), and if you have the Bluetooth phone kit it lets you voice dial and answer the phone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdariotisj Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 hey ade, whar was the retrofit website for the MFSW installer. i have a b6 s4 cab with the nav, but no bluetooth (looking), and would like the wheel with the controls, thanks harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4Ade Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 hey ade, whar was the retrofit website for the MFSW installer. i have a b6 s4 cab with the nav, but no bluetooth (looking), and would like the wheel with the controls, thanksharris This is the place I found. Ade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 This is the place I found.Ade Feck me, he knows how to charge! Not bad to say he probably nicked most of the information from forums. I should have set up doing it myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4Ade Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Feck me, he knows how to charge! Not bad to say he probably nicked most of the information from forums. I should have set up doing it myself! Before I decided to dive in and go for the DIY retrofit I was seriously considering using this place - it was one of the cheapest I found for the cruise retrofit, but what really put me off was the £125 price tag to perform the DIS install at the same time (a process which took me about 3 minutes whilst I was doing the retrofit). In the end I'm glad I chose to do it - cruise+dis+washer sensor was going to cost me near to £500 and in the end, including the price of a vag com license, I ended up spending half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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