theybe Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Thanks for the reply guys. I am just after a standard remap. So I suppose 250 is what iam looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Enjoy it when it comes, CJ. IMO, its money very well spent. Very addictive too. .....Thanks jc..Thanks for the reply guys. I am just after a standard remap. So I suppose 250 is what iam looking atAPS remapped my 06 GTi to 240/5bhp.Made a really big difference especially through 1st,2nd,3rd&4th gear.I also recieved excellent service from Ed and the Team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO8 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 .....Thanks jc..APS remapped my 06 GTi to 240/5bhp.Made a really big difference especially through 1st,2nd,3rd&4th gear. I also recieved excellent service from Ed and the Team.. APS did one of my cars years ago .... I would have definitely gone to them for the Edition 30 but wanted something I could switch back to standard - which unfortunately they don't do .... I am sure they would get all from a car that is there to be got - within safe levels of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 APS did one of my cars years ago .... I would have definitely gone to them for the Edition 30 but wanted something I could switch back to standard - which unfortunately they don't do .... I am sure they would get all from a car that is there to be got - within safe levels of course ! so who actually does a chip/remap which you can switch back to standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO8 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 so who actually does a chip/remap which you can switch back to standard? Of the well known ones - APS & Custom Code don't for the GTi ..... good maps but not able (on this car at least) to switch back to original or a specified 'equivalent' to the manufacturers standard. Revo, APR and GIAC do a switching method either via a plug in switch (Revo and GIAC) or via the cruise control if fitted (APR) but all three always have the performance software always loaded on the ECU 'next to' a standard map (their version of it - not your original but effectively the same). The switch just 'flicks' between the versions of the map they have loaded on your ECU, usually standard and one or two versions of the uprated map depending on who you buy off. Changing between the pre loaded maps takes a few seconds, slightly quicker with APR as it is done via the cruise control as opposed to having to plug in a switch to the diagnostics port in the drivers footwell. Superchips completely reflash the ECU with their Bluefin device. This wipes the map each time and resets the flash counter so it appears totally original if reflashed to the original map. You load either their performance map or go back to your original standard map which is held on the Bluefin device. This takes about 20 minutes each time as it is a total reflash. It is done via the diagnostics port in the drivers footwell. Hope this makes sense and assists ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Just to clarify, APS can remove the remap and set the car back to standard, but it requires a visit back to them. Revo do a switchable map and so do AmD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopipes Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I use the Bluefin on my 55 gti I really like it. I like the fact you own the device to upload the map which can also be used to find faults and to remove the map all together If you are not using your car for a while and would like extra security. The figures show a 40bhp from the superchip brochures. The support is good and if you wish to change your car for a newer model you can upload your map ( reverting your original car back) free inside 12 months or for fee of about £120 you will be able to download a new map for your new car. ( this was the case as of April this year so please ask first if this is still the case.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) I use the Bluefin on my 55 gti I really like it. I like the fact you own the device to upload the map which can also be used to find faults and to remove the map all together If you are not using your car for a while and would like extra security.The figures show a 40bhp from the superchip brochures. The support is good and if you wish to change your car for a newer model you can upload your map ( reverting your original car back) free inside 12 months or for fee of about £120 you will be able to download a new map for your new car. ( this was the case as of April this year so please ask first if this is still the case.) Interesting. Who actually does Bluefinchips? I was going to see APS next week, to get mine remapped Edited November 24, 2008 by theybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Superchips - Bluefin - PLUG-IN AND GO. Bluefin by Superchips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thank you. It looks like, I will be buying this then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopipes Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Mention this forum, they might give you a discount...... Just looked at the price now £499 is a £100 less than last years price. Let us know how you get on!!! good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopipes Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Mention this forum, they might give you a discount...... Just looked at the price now £499 is a £100 less than last years price.Let us know how you get on!!! good luck JUst got an email from super chips, the bluefin is now 20% less, now would be a very good time to buy if you are thinking of getting one. Christmas Retail Promotion PRICES REDUCED BY 20%! PLUS WE'RE PASSING ON THE V.A.T. REDUCTION Turbo Petrol and Turbo Diesel bluefins £391 inc. UK carriage and 15% VAT Normally Aspirated Petrol bluefins £234 inc. UK carriage and 15% VAT on direct online or telephone orders placed between 1 and 23 December 2008. Retail prices will return to £489 and £293 respectively when we reopen on 2 January 2009. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks for the heads up. I have a dilemma. There is a place called www.fontain.co.uk that will remap the gti to 265 bhp and you can test out the remap for 5 hours before you buy it. price is around £480. The other option is obviously bluefin which is 250bhp. hmm.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Fontain are a well known Audi specialist and are a Revo Technik | ECU Tuning & Engine Management Software reseller Headline bhp figures are always dependent on the car. You'll get 250bhp out of your car with an after-market exhuast on it - people use numbers juts to get you through the door. Depends on where you're based as to which tuner you might want to consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks for the heads up.I have a dilemma. There is a place called www.fontain.co.uk that will remap the gti to 265 bhp and you can test out the remap for 5 hours before you buy it. price is around £480. The other option is obviously bluefin which is 250bhp. hmm.:confused: Yep, that's a Revo Stage 1 remap. Mook's right, 265bhp is a bit rich and 250 is more near the mark. Still a huge improvement over stock and you won't be disappointed, I can assure you. After the 5hr free trial, you'll be throwing your cash at them to load up the software! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopipes Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bluefin should take it to about 240bhp on a standard gti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Although new to this forum I am also interested in re-mapping my newly aquired GTI. I had decided on Revo until I was tempted by Bluefin offer. This lead me to contacting JKM to find out a little more about the pro's and con's of the two systems. The reply I got was very helpful, so I will copy it to here below. "Both products are very good for the TFSI engine, though they are aimed at slightly different markets. Bluefin is sold as a DIY product, and as such its code is not adjustable by the end user, the code (as good as it is) has been written as per the test car that was available for Superchips during development. REVO again is very good code written and tested across a few cars during development, and the code is end user adjustable (via an optional select / select plus switch) this means that if you have really good fuel available to you then the ignition timing can be set more aggressive – giving more torque. The same with the boost level being adjustable, where for example if the car has a high quality intake and turbo finds it easier to make the desired boost level, then the boost level can be increased (if desired). This leads into adjustment for future modifications, however both Maps will take to an exhaust change with no issues (assuming a high quality cat is used other wise you risk the emissions lamp coming on). The 2 maps do drive quite differently; REVO is all about big torque and fairly aggressive power delivery. Superchips/Bluefin (on a stage 1 map) on the other handdrives much more like a production car where by the Torque figures are usually lower than REVO, and the torque curve is a lot flatter – giving a nice linear power delivery. It comes down to if you want a more aggressive/faster car, or a faster car that is slightly tamer on the power delivery. I’m not sure if you have an Edition 30 Golf, or a Normal GTI – either way both gains are very good and the cars drive fantastically. I hope that this helps, If you have any more questions please do not hesitate to ask. Kind Regards Keith" I would be very interested to hear the opinions of both Revo and Bluefin users. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Welcome to TSN, timbutler. I can't comment on the generic Bluefin, but having had the the stage 1 Revo map on my GTI for just over a year, can. The Revo map is quite aggresive and it takes a wee bit of time to learn right foot control to get the power down without spinning up the front wheels. Power comes in at about 2400 rpm and is delivered quickly on a steep curve with loads of torque all the way up to the redline. It's very usable for every day driving and when you want to plant you're right foot, the power just keeps on coming. In 3rd around 4-4500 rpm, its awesome. Highly addictive mind you - I've planned and budgeted for stage 2 along with the extra hardware in February. Which ever you opt for, I can honestly say you will no regret owning a remapped GTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO8 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Comments on the Bluefin power delivery seem right - at least for the DSG Ed 30 I have .... more everywhere, following the style of the std power delivery but, say, 20bhp above std up to about 4500 thereafter you get about 50+bhp more to the 6,300 rpm 'ish change - which feels decidedly rapid :D Superchips limit the torque on the DSG low down so the 'kick' is not really there - though it's obvious - and does feel - that it's got a fair bit more than standard to 4500 rpm ... it's from 4500 rpm when it really does shift to the redline !! I miss a more aggressive 'kick' low down but with the DSG it would probably make it difficult to drive and I am sure that's why Superchips have done it the way they have - it saves stress on the DSG box and makes it very driveable indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I will contact bluefin to confirm pricing and will more than likely go with them. Is it that simple to plug and go but its for them to answer all of my questions anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 .... I know JKM very well and they remapped my Mk5 GTI and recently solved my power losses which were due to a cracked wastegate. They've done quite a lot of work on my car and they know a lot about the 2.0T FSI engine. They also run a very realistically setup Dyno-Dynamics rolling road. The only Superchips GTI I've driven belongs to VW Racing but it's a custom map rather than Bluefin and about 300 bhp, but the power is very linear. I'm now Revo Stage2 but what I like about Revo is that the turbo starts to deliver strong power at about 2,000 revs and that extra ooomph helps overtaking (or getting rid of some annoying tailgater). Take any bhp numbers that tuners give you with a pinch of salt! What's important imo is driveability. My Revo Stage1 never made more than 240 bhp and I doubt if my Stage2 will plot more than 260 bhp in spite of my other performance mods. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theybe Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Just had a look at the REVO master sit and the nearest remapping centre is fontain and it looks like fontain do revo then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky 32 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I own a Octavia vRS II 2.0 TFSI. With just a remapp i could not get over 236bhp no matter how much the map was tweaked. Most revo cars are giving 236bhp on average. I then got a full Milltek, EVOM's air intake, uprated autotech fuel pump and a Forged twintercooler and got the map tweaked again. On the same RR that gave 236bhp it now produces 288bhp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternocleidomastoid Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I own a Octavia vRS II 2.0 TFSI. With just a remapp i could not get over 236bhp no matter how much the map was tweaked. Most revo cars are giving 236bhp on average. I then got a full Milltek, EVOM's air intake, uprated autotech fuel pump and a Forged twintercooler and got the map tweaked again. On the same RR that gave 236bhp it now produces 288bhp. That's some good figures there dude. I take it the vRS has the same smaller turbo as a GTI (k03)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky 32 Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 That's some good figures there dude. I take it the vRS has the same smaller turbo as a GTI (k03)? Yeah it's a ko3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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