Mook Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's all relative though - 9.3% of what and 40.2% of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's all relative though - 9.3% of what and 40.2% of what? Last years sales in the same market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Audi must be doing something right, but I'm buggered if I know what it is... Are those figures just for Audi models, or for VW AG ? All are listed seperately. VW/Seat didn't do as well. (- 18% & -9%, -25% & - 15% respectively). However, Seat had some run-out models before launching the new Ibiza and VW the same with the Golf. Vx the same with the Insignia replacing the Vectra. Ford replaced the nasty fester with the newer, swoopy Fiesta, so that will influence the figures for these manufactuerers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Last years sales in the same market. I know that you numpty but a 9.3% drop in sales of 1,000 is 10 fewer cars, a 40% drop in sales of 100,000 cars is 40,000 fewer sales - i.e. big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I also wonder how many are 'self registrations'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Sales figures for the US (from the BBC site - obviously):- US carmakers have reported sharp falls in December car sales in another sign of the impact of the economic slowdown. Chrysler was the worst-hit of the Big Three US car firms with its monthly sales plummeting 53%, when compared with December the previous year. Ford saw its monthly US sales fall 32%, while General Motors sales dropped 31% - when compared with December 2007. Worldwide car sales are expected to be down 40% in December, as consumers stay away from car showrooms. Bigger discounts However, the steep falls in US car sales have not been limited to US manufacturers. Toyota and Honda's US sales fell more than their US competitors' in December. Toyota recorded a 37% decline and Honda a drop of 35%. The plunge in Chrysler's December figures helped to drag its 2008 sales down 30% to fewer than 1.5 million vehicles. The figures came just days after a US government bail-out to help the cash-strapped carmakers bridge the current financial crisis. Chrysler said some of its losses were due to a significant reduction in fleet sales, which were down 31% for the year as a whole. In a statement the firm said it would "continue to invest in quality and fuel-efficiency improvements on its current line-up, while developing all-new vehicles for the next generation". Chrysler has said it will offer discounts of up to $8,000 (£5,400) on some of its models to help lure back customers to its showrooms. One car firm, Hyundai, is trying to woo buyers by promising to let them return cars free for up to a year if they lose their jobs and can't keep up with their payments. Industry analysts expect similar incentives such as zero-per cent financing and cash rebates to continue well into 2009, as car firms try everything they can to boost sales. "You look in the paper and the deals on brand new GM pickups are astonishing. The discount that you get buys a heck of a lot of gasoline," said Aaron Bragman of IHS Global Insight, Troy, Michigan. Luxury successes Ford said it sold 138,458 light vehicles last month, down from 204,787 in December 2007. But even though its sales were dismal, Ford said it expects to fare better than the industry overall. Meanwhile, GM sold 220,030 light vehicles compared with 319,837 in December 2007. The one major exception to the collapse in car sales, has been the Japanese carmaker Subaru, which saw its US sales edge higher in 2008. Subaru reported its December sales were down 7.7% on the year before - but its sales for all of 2008 rose by 0.3%. The firm said in a statement that "in a difficult market", it had been able to establish new sales records, with its "highest market share ever". A handful of smaller car firms - including luxury names like Rolls Royce and Maserati - recorded higher sales in 2008 up to November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 That's impressive for Subaru, and promising for their position globally - the US market for Subaru is probably a 100 times (or more) that in the UK. I imagine the Tribeca will have done quite well (in a market where it isn't as ugly - relatively! ) as will the new Forester. And the Legacy/Outback has always been a strong seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I know that you numpty but a 9.3% drop in sales of 1,000 is 10 fewer cars, a 40% drop in sales of 100,000 cars is 40,000 fewer sales - i.e. big difference. Audi 12/08: 7,712; 12/07: 8,504 (-9.3%) BMW 12/08: 18,060; 12/07: 30,199 (-40.2%) Lexus 12/08: 23,362; 12/07: 34,555 (-32.4%) Mercedes-Benz 12/08: 18,507; 12/07: 27,269 (-32.1%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Is that right for Lexus - looks a bit high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 after LMD's damage January's figures may get even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesK Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Audi 12/08: 7,712; 12/07: 8,504 (-9.3%) BMW 12/08: 18,060; 12/07: 30,199 (-40.2%) Lexus 12/08: 23,362; 12/07: 34,555 (-32.4%) Mercedes-Benz 12/08: 18,507; 12/07: 27,269 (-32.1%) Makes you wonder why Audi sales are so much lower generally. (come on the Audi bashers!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 No, it's not LMD's fault for the crash in sales, it's our fault for being vermin, c0cks and jokers. Now get back in your 'hovell'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 No, it's not LMD's fault for the crash in sales, it's our fault for being vermin, c0cks and jokers. Now get back in your 'hovell'. sorry - forgot, wot with being a cock 'n all ... i'm going ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 sorry - forgot, wot with being a cock 'n all ... i'm going ....... Like LMD's job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Like LMD's job.... difference being I can make a decent cup of tea!! ha ha ha:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 difference being I can make a decent cup of tea!! ha ha ha:p Why make tea yourself ? As LMD said, they offer great free coffee at your local Lexus dealership, I find them more convenient that McDonalds myself, although the Lexus staff aren't as nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Is that right for Lexus - looks a bit high? Those figures are just for the US - Lexus' biggest market. Makes you wonder why Audi sales are so much lower generally.(come on the Audi bashers!) It's the only significant market where they still have some catching up to do. It's happening, albeit slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I know that you numpty but a 9.3% drop in sales of 1,000 is 10 fewer cars With maths like that you could work for Lexus finance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Oh my word. Or Audi marketing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brabus Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 With maths like that you could work for Lexus finance!! lol, well done Mook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Why make tea yourself ? As LMD said, they offer great free coffee at your local Lexus dealership, I find them more convenient that McDonalds myself, although the Lexus staff aren't as nice. I suppose pulling up in my "she is a cock" car would mean no-one would interrupt me as I waltz over to the coffee machine, I wonder if they have Hello or OK to browse through and if I can watch This Morning too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 lol, well done Mook! classic, I know I can't talk, but classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think the big difference with Audi is the refresh of the A4, massive stimulus to sales, if it wasn't for that the figures would look very different. They managed to get it out at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 With maths like that you could work for Lexus finance!! Feck, you lot took your time It was intentional. Honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I think the big difference with Audi is the refresh of the A4, massive stimulus to sales, if it wasn't for that the figures would look very different. They managed to get it out at the right time. When did the B8 come out in the USA? They're usually a fair while behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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