Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [rant on] A 2010 BMW M3 Coupe costs €68,350 or US$93,900 in Germany, but "only" US$60,575 or €44,100 (negotiable MSRP including destination & handling fees, and gas guzzler tax) in the States ... B@stards! [/rant off] ... Normal service will be resumed shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Competition in the US means that's the way it is, sadly. If you try to buy a car in the US and bring it over here, you end up paying about teh same as a UK car (plus all the hassle) because of the transport, import duty and VAT costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Have a look at Corvette prices ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 A properly imported V8 Camaro is well over £40k here. An Escalade is getting on for £60k. What's that, something over $100k? You could buy both cars and the factory they're built in for that in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Dont forget you will have to add sales tax onto the US car price too. varies by state. NJ is 6%, NY is 8.25% etc. EU prices include VAT in the MSRP. the other thing to add is BMWs and Audis i know come with 3 years servicing included, and their base model is equivalent to a UK well equiped model....i.e. most come with leather and decent stereo systems due to the competition. final thing is most cars in the US are initially leased, so dealers make more moeny on the back end rather than up front.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) the other thing to add is BMWs and Audis i know come with 3 years servicing included, In the US it's a 4-year warranty and on BMW there are no maintenance costs for 4 years (inc discs& pads), 4 years of BMW Assist and 4 years breakdown - so still a better package. Factor those into the price of a European car and the price gap just gets even bigger (even if you included tax). They get 2.9% APR from BMW Finance too. Edited February 12, 2010 by Andy_Bangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 In 2003 we bought a new Crossfire in a summer sales drive for $22000USD. Last year it died and we replaced it with a 2.0 Focus sedan, mid spec (AC, automatic, CD, airbags etc.) for about £6800....and that was given the poor exchange rate last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightningandthunder Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 A friend of mine bought a used 2009 BMW M3 coupe here in Iowa for $55,000. It has only 2,700 miles on it and is virtually brand new, also has three years of original manufacturer warranty left. Gas prices are also cheaper here. Just goes to prove that Europe is not auto-friendly! ----------------------------------------------------------- Lightning and Thunder Blog Visit my blog about lightning fast cars and thundering engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 A friend of mine bought a used 2009 BMW M3 coupe here in Iowa for $55,000. It has only 2,700 miles on it and is virtually brand new, also has three years of original manufacturer warranty left.Gas prices are also cheaper here. Just goes to prove that Europe is not auto-friendly! We have a 70 mph limit (offset by cameras everywhere). We only tend to get banned for being over 100 mph. What's the ban line for speeding in the USA And we make cars that go round corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) One thing that is worth noting is that MSRP is not negotiable for most Americans, how often are the advertised MSRPs on cheap deals for cash only? Often. IME deals have only ever been for cash and last time i read on MSN Motors that only accounted for around 25% of all new cars sold in the USA. Most will be either be leasing with various balloons, or more often then not buying on finance. Often these deals are zero down, zero to pay for the first 3 months etc. However the acutal costs and set up fees worked in the monthly payments are often in the 30-35% APR bracket. Infact, some of these deals will give you "instant cash back", which of course is acutally held against the original final cost! Unless you can pay for anything then and now, nothing in America is as cheap as it seems. It is a credit fuel society, so when you often think of people even buying cheap clothing, you can bet most are slapping that on that pay later programs! Also, MSRP and invoice are different, invoice is what you pay and will be higher then MSRP b/c of dealer mark ups and before mentioned taxes, typically 10-20% profit margins is worth noting. If its out on the lot then you might get a good deal. If you want to spec it yourself, then you might well be be paying alot of money. Geoff Edited February 17, 2010 by steelwind101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 We have a 70 mph limit (offset by cameras everywhere). We only tend to get banned for being over 100 mph. What's the ban line for speeding in the USA And we make cars that go round corners Its 80 MPH just south of Salt Lake City where im often found, out on the Rural Routes in Idaho you can probably go as fast as the road allows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Don't forget, the UK £ and the euro are basically at parity. Whereas the $ is at 1.5 to each £. That skews the prices a bit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 We have a 70 mph limit The US 55mph limit is a myth these days, apart from Utah which ironically has one of the longest straight and flat sections of interstate in the country - 37 miles or so across the salt flats with a 55mph limit and speed traps that can see about 5 miles each way! Urban California might be 55 too, can't remember. From memory alot of interstates are 75mph, most others 65mph. And from my experience on the east coast, Highway Patrol aren't fussy to the odd 20mph or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 yep, both local and State police are not too bothered if you are doing 85 on a 75 Interstate in a capable vehicle. I have had a few wave in a 'slow down' way rather than pull me over. best bit is if they do pull out and are following you, they will stop for a broken down vehicle to help out rather than persuing you to give you a ticket - that happened once in Virgina (slightly more strict). 'Protect and Serve'.......if the UK could adopt that ethos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 You have to discredit Utah, its a weird state....80MPH max speed and 55 on there no wheres lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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