stooH Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 As a side note from the Fabia vRS Advert thread diversion I thought I'd ask the question to see if anyone can explain the differences between the current Octavia vRS and Golf GTI. My car's coming up to 4 years and will have 80k or so on the clock by then so need to start thinking about a replacement once the household accountant has approved it, I dallied with the idea of a soft roader but want to keep my options open and still love the GTI. The Leon Cupra doesn't appeal to me but the Octavia does, i've always thought the vRS and the GTI were reasonably on a par, then I looked at the price difference. Looking on AutoEBid (where I sourced the current car) the estimated prices for the two are: Octavia vRS 5 door DSG - £17,024 GTI 5 door DSG - £24,023 A £7k difference So what's the difference in the product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Aside from the price, the suspension on the Octavia is definitely not the same - it's a lot softer on the Octavia. Drive one - you'll see what I mean. Also the Octavia is a bigger car, even if it's based on the same or a similar chassis to the Mk6. I'd probably choose the Golf over the Octavia, but only because it's smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Basically, the Golf is a small hatchback, the Octavia is a large (saloon ish style) hatchback, I've not driven a new VRs so can't comment on the suspension, but having driven cooking models of both, they feel the same to drive, albeit the Octavia seems to not put it's power down as well, although that could have just been the tyres. If your into VAG products, the Octavia VR's is probably the pick of the bunch, and you can have DSG too if your into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 And it wouldn't surprise me if the vRS has more standard kit. I like bigger cars so I'd naturally turn to the vRS. In this case, you have to like the Golf A LOT to justify the extra seven grand (which could be ten grand by the time you've spec'd it). Without having driven either I would expect the Golf to be a bit sharper handling and possibly slightly quicker. I guess it all depends on your circumstances. If you're erring towards the practical and want to save a bit of cash then the vRS is a fine car that gives you 90% of what the GTI does. If you love the look and feel of the Golf and want the caché of the GTI brand, and you can afford it, nobody can really tell you you're wrong to buy the Golf. Personally I like the look of the Leon Cupra, but no idea what they're like inside or how they drive. You are in a price range where there's alot to choose from outside the VAG range too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 If you got a vRS and stuck the £7k into mods, I'm sure it woud handle better than a GTi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 A lot less than that Matt - £1200 on coilovers and £500 on ARBs and you're there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Maybe £50 on various badges would make up the rest of the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Now i'm starting to get tempted, I wonder how much to pick up a 6 month or year old vRS, if I can get a reasonable amount for the GTI it might not be a massive cost to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Be tempted. Honestly, they're great cars. I'm just about to sell mine after 2 years of ownership and apart from both front shocks giving up after I lowered it (replaced under warranty) I can't think of any problems it's had. And we do a cracking map for the 2.0TSI in the facelift :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted November 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Is the 2.0TSI the new one which is used in the Golf which is about 207bhp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 To throw another cat amongst the pigeons, the latest incarnation of the Leon has the small matter of 54bhp more than that 207bhp 2.0TSI unit, for £5k less than the GTI. Just saying, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 To throw another cat amongst the pigeons, the latest incarnation of the Leon has the small matter of 54bhp more than that 207bhp 2.0TSI unit, for £5k less than the GTI.Just saying, like. Yes, the new Cupra R same set up as the Rocco R. But even the std Cupra had just under 240bhp. It was the FR that had the same engine as the GTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Is the 2.0TSI the new one which is used in the Golf which is about 207bhp ? Yep although runs the "A" software rather than "B" software so is still 200PS instead of 211PS. Same engine entirely though. Our stage 1 is good for 260+hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Stooh, IMHO one of the main differences in the product is the after sales support and service. Have a close look at the Skoda servicing premises and staff - go inside the work area. Then look at a VW set up. There's your answer. Also, if you think about it, there is no way the Germans are going to let Skoda and Seat ever, produce better cars than VW! Ludwig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Stooh, IMHO one of the main differences in the product is the after sales support and service.Have a close look at the Skoda servicing premises and staff - go inside the work area. Then look at a VW set up. There's your answer. Also, if you think about it, there is no way the Germans are going to let Skoda and Seat ever, produce better cars than VW! Ludwig Not true in my opinion as models from all the companies share the same production facilitied. Also any vw, seat or skoda dealer I've visited have been the same standard. Going by your rationale we should all buy audis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 But does the Skoda have DRLs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 But does the Skoda have DRLs? From 01/2011 onwards, all newly homologised vehicles have to be equipped with daytime running lamps under EU directive ECE R48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Well that sells it for me, and as part of the VAG group I expect them to have at least 3 or 4 bendy waves in them and made out of christmas fairy lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Andy_Bangle, do you know if the directive says you _have_ to have them switched on all the time? Ludwig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 It depends on what country you are driving in .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Right, so they're permitted in the UK. That's all. So turn the feckin things off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Going by your rationale we should all buy audis. And their dealers really do suck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 From 01/2011 onwards, all newly homologised vehicles have to be equipped with daytime running lamps under EU directive:coffee: Says it all... btw, bmw angel eyes don't count as everyone knows BMW drivers are double ard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 No, Audi drivers took the BMW handle away from them, because BMW drivers, esp M5 drivers are now all mincers. It's official you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 No, Audi drivers took the BMW handle away from them, because BMW drivers, esp M5 drivers are now all mincers. It's official you know Glad I don't own an M5 then... just a modest Audi A3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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