Riz Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I guess this summer meet is going to be daaaawn saaaarth :D Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I wouldn't believe the comment about it being the first Suzuka Grey car in the UK. There's a 61 plate one I've seen a couple times now, once yesterday and the first time nearly a month ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I wouldn't believe the comment about it being the first Suzuka Grey car in the UK. There's a 61 plate one I've seen a couple times now, once yesterday and the first time nearly a month ago! I didnt believe it either, if you had been dealing with the R8 team, you would appreciate why, anything they say, is just a total load of bull and tosh, and designed to try and placate, a whole heap of p1ssed off customers Would be genuinely interested in what you actually thought of the colour on the car, in the steel so to speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I guess this summer meet is going to be daaaawn saaaarth :DRiz Any chance you would be making an appearance with the R32 Riz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Any chance you would be making an appearance with the R32 Riz? Only if he has it trailered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Very stealthy (it was debadged) and it was the brakes I first noticed in traffic. I know someone with a red one (with the red rim on the wheels too, yak) and the grey looks much better. It's nice with the gloss black diffuser etc. I will say that if you don't know your cars, a debadged grey RS3 looks like any other A3 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Buxton or Chester Riz - hardly down south. The one I saw on Saturday was grey too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I will say that if you don't know your cars, a debadged grey RS3 looks like any other A3 though. That's not necessarily a bad thing though is it? I mean for anyone who knows about cars, they'll know it's a bit special. For anyone who doesn't - the badge is irrelevant. Same reason it always makes me wonder why the hell people but M badges on on M cars. The only outcome is ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Same reason it always makes me wonder why the hell people but M badges on on M cars. The only outcome is ridicule. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 The people who do this have got their heads so far up their own arses they are oblivious to the ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Anyone in here got one yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scillyisles Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Anyone in here got one yet? Yes - impressive car which is faster than the Audi published figures would suggest. I have a suspicion that Audi deliberately downplayed the performance stats so as not to upset owners of more expensive Audis. Edited April 22, 2012 by scillyisles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Glad its arrived. I like SG - think it looks good. Beford Audi had a White RS3 in their showroom for a while and that looked good as well, where as MK had a Black demo and that looked average after the paler colours I'd seen. As MAc says I think in todays climate the RS3 is somewhat of a good buy - only a marginal premium over a Golf R and far better engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yes - impressive car which is faster than the Audi published figures would suggest. I have a suspicion that Audi deliberately downplayed the performance stats so as not to upset owners of more expensive Audis. You kept that one quiet! Any chance of a brief write up and impression of the car to date scillyisles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 - only a marginal premium over a Golf R and far better engine From the owners I have talked to, the new seven speed DSG box appears to be pretty impressive as well, the one area that concerns me somewhat, being an old skool porridge stirrer, hopefully I can get on with it, if not going to be a fairly expensive mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The S-Tronic 'box gets some positive write-ups from the likes of EVO in other cars such as the S4, can't remember if they had much specifically to say about it in the RS3. Scillyisles - honest question: you say it's faster than the figures suggest. Is that you or others putting actual figures on it, or gut feel compared to other cars you've driven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Scillyisles - honest question: you say it's faster than the figures suggest. Is that you or others putting actual figures on it, or gut feel compared to other cars you've driven? There are quite a few 0-60 tests out there getting around 0-60 in 4 seconds, and my mate who owns the local franchise, put his up against a second hand R8 they had in stock (V8 Manual), and there was pretty much nothing in it, with the RS3 just edging it (Probably down to the DSG box) this would also support a 4 second 0-60, which is a lot better than Audi officially claim at 4.6. The Germans do seem to under rate there performance figures somewhat, but conversely tend to inflate there fuel consumption figures as a rule Unlike Ford, who just seem to porky pie about everything, Feckus RS being a case in point, loads of those dyno at 270 PS and down, when 300PS is being claimed, driven a couple as I was considering buying one, and they just didnt feel as quick as even an S3 TBH, I know it is a slightly subjective comment to make, but a stock Feckus RS would not live with an S3 on a 0-60 basis which only churns out a meagre claimed 267 PS No folks not a dick waving post, just some views, based on my own experience, to be fair, the Feckus is a hoot to drive, just not as powerful as Ford seem to claim it is, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Sorry, but posts like that always make me smile, it's complete bollox of course. If the RS3 could do 0-60 in 4 seconds then that's what would be in the official figures, Audi have no reason to downplay it, any thoughts of not wanting to upset RS4/6 owners is simply wishful thinking. As for the Focus, if it wasn't as Ford claim they would be in court over it, simple as that. The problem is, you've been taken in by the Internet 'experts' and all the bullshit they spout, and willy waving. No one is denying (and never have) that the RS3 is exceptionally fast, not even 'for a hot hatch' it's just fast period, posts like that above do you a disservice, and make it obvious you spend a lot of time on Audi dedicated forums, as you can bet no one on the Ford forums has an underpowered Focus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Sorry, but posts like that always make me smile, it's complete bollox of course.If the RS3 could do 0-60 in 4 seconds then that's what would be in the official figures, Audi have no reason to downplay it, any thoughts of not wanting to upset RS4/6 owners is simply wishful thinking. As for the Focus, if it wasn't as Ford claim they would be in court over it, simple as that. The problem is, you've been taken in by the Internet 'experts' and all the bullshit they spout, and willy waving. No one is denying (and never have) that the RS3 is exceptionally fast, not even 'for a hot hatch' it's just fast period, posts like that above do you a disservice. With all due respect T, I personally witnessed the said Missano Red RS3 dragging it against the R8 V8 Manual on three seperate runs, so either the R8 is slower than the official figures, or the RS3 is quicker, take your pick. In regards to the Feckus, try a look at a lot of the RS dedicated sites, and have a gander at the myriad of dyno outputs posted, showing exactly my point, and the disgruntled Feckus owners having a moan, about the power output the dyno is indicating, something which having actually driven a couple of these cars, I would suggest that there is some truth in the fact, that they are not churning out the claimed PS output. I also think car companies ending up in court, on the basis of spurious power output claims, is stretching the realms of reality somewhat, I mean when was the last time any car company ended up in court for anything? Dodgy Toyota throttles (Never proved) and exploding fuel tanks, after a rear ender excluded I mean take fuel consumption figures, something that in reality should allow you to take a manufacturer to court over, has it ever happened? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Fuel consumption figures have to be obtained in the strict way set out for manufacturers, they don't have a choice in how the figures are obtained, hardly the same as over inflating power figures, which would end up in court, or with owners handing them back for full refunds as they don't meet the description. Not to mention the fact that any dyno printout is subject to being complete bollox, due to the way dynos work, you'd need an exceptionally good operator and identical conditions etc etc, and sadly, most dyno operators don't know what they are doing. I am still a member on a couple of Ford Forums from my own RS/ST owning days, and I've never seen mention once from any of the RS owners that they are unhappy, quite the opposite. I hardly think a couple of salesmen drag racing on the streets is an accurate way of comparing the cars either. I'm sorry, but you don't half spout some cr@p sometimes, I know you love a good conspiracy, but Christ, don't you get bored of it all? I'm starting to sound all Audi hating and Ford fan again now, so I should just clarify, that both the focus and A3 are excellent cars, and the 3 is undoubtedly 'better' and faster, my argument has nothing to do with the actual cars in this, just the total cr@p being talked about both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 They are raving about the engine in the RS3. A number of tests showing 0-100mph in under 10 secs (same as the 1M). The R8 V8 is just about the same time too. So with a new 7 speed dsg it could out drag an R8. The R8 V10 is a lot quicker than the V8 though. Obviously in an RS3 no one will believe you and you will have to explain it which defeats the object. In an R8 everyone will expect it to go mega speed and girls will be easy to pull. Just the way life is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 No doubt it's a stonking engine, and as an old school Audi fan, I love the fact it's a 5 pot, personally I find it a shame they stuck it in a minicab, but that's my personal view on the looks alone, not the driving experience, which apparently is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm starting to sound all Audi hating and Ford fan again now, . I would only respond as follows: If two drivers one a fairly successful BTRDA member and the other an ex formula ford driver, take a couple of cars down to Pembrey for a head to head, then I sincerely fail to see how that constitutes and I quote " a couple of salesmen drag racing on the streets" As for sounding Audi hating, I just put it down to the Post Menstral Tension, that seems to afflict you, every time you post on this particular thread. Just for the record, where "enrys" are concerned I have owned everything from a Mk1 Mexico,"Custom" RS 3.1 Capri, bad thing to do I know, but I was a big custom Car head back in the day, and I used to do the Chelsea Cruise in her,Brooklands Capri,snapped the rear leafs and bent the axle, after a trip through a hedge one cold icy night, RS500 Cossie (Nicked) after tuning works up in the smoke and never seen again, and the last an Escort Cosworth,sold to my mate, who totalled it three days later. So I wont take any lectures from anyone, on Ford's, have owned, driven, wrapped and liked them over many years. And as for talking crap, I'll take that as a compliment from a leading exponent of the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 And as for talking crap, I'll take that as a compliment from a leading exponent of the subject Fifteen love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Boys play nice please. Oh and as for fuel economy figures, the US actually check and sometimes alter official fuel figures that they state if they can't replicate them themselves. The new BMW 328i is one such example, that for at least the next 12months will have to show a higher mpg than the manufacturer supplied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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