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I can't think of a more painful way to have it taken from us.

By City.

On goal difference (so it's not a proper win anyway).

In 5 minutes extra time, of which they never played the last 2 cos' the ref blew the whistle.

That hurts. That really hurts, I'll admit it.

But I'll repeat it - well done City. The best win does indeed win the league and as long as they keep it nicely polished for us to have it back next year (which we will) then fair enough.

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City's home record:

P 19 W 18 D 1 L 0

If they sort their away form out they might win next year too. :P

That's pretty much the same record as we had the previous season.

If you can put in that kind of home form, you're almost guaranteed to win the title.

Mad, mad season, though - the Everton game is probably where we really lost it - but if we'd shut up shop at 3-1 down against City at OT, rather than trying to go all out to recover something, then we may well have come out of the season with the trophy.

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I can't think of a more painful way to have it taken from us.

By City.

On goal difference (so it's not a proper win anyway).

In 5 minutes extra time, of which they never played the last 2 cos' the ref blew the whistle.

That hurts. That really hurts, I'll admit it.

But I'll repeat it - well done City. The best win does indeed win the league and as long as they keep it nicely polished for us to have it back next year (which we will) then fair enough.

Picture a venue packed with 400 Arsenal fans watching our team play the same shite that they did all season. There was a lot of sympathy for the supporters that really run the gauntlet today. For 90 plus minutes a team supported by half a billion world wide thought they had got away with it.

Two goals in extra time or at last knockings was harsh, but soooo sweet.

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Like most football fans I will defend my team to the bitter end. I do however try and avoid gloating when we win or mocking rival clubs when they lose. An apology then for the next couple of minutes.

One of the first football games I ever remeber watching was when City were a goal up against some middle of the table team, City of course were lower down the table. We were a goal up and that would mean top flight football the next year, but that would be far too simple. Our keeper Andy Dibble drops a clanger and it's 1-1 with minutes to go. The next attack Dibble rushes out and smashes into the forward to give away a penalty and get sent off. The penalty was scored and two goals from Ian Rush the following week meant City were down.

I was about 10 years old and didn't have a clue what was to come following this crazy team. Most if not all football teams have their up's and downs but City take it to a whole new level. Constantly gaining promotion then getting relegated the following season. I'm not going to check the stats but I'm pretty confident we have been up and down more than any other club in our league. The lowest point was ending up in the 3rd tier of English football.

That ended with a playoff final against Gillingham and we were 2-0 down with 2 minutes to go. We scored twice and the game ended in penalties. We won and the following season won the first division to go back to the top flight where we then got relegated....

That Gillingham match and a FA cup game against Spurs when we were 3-0 down and came back to win 3-4 are the only times I remember us doing things like that until this season. You see, Utd are the ones that do this sort of thing, scoring in Fergie added on time. There are too many games to list as it happens about 5 times a year and the most famous would be that against Bayern in the CL final.

Our reputation is different, we lose late goals, do silly Andy Dibble things and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. While we watch Utd pick up trophy after trophy we have to come to terms with relegation. While they win in Europe we qualify through the fair play league and then get knocked out to some Hungarien or Polish minow. While they are spending £20mil on teenagers we are buying has beens at the end of their careers, Fowler, Mcmanaman, Seaman etc.

Whilst Utd were buying world class players we were adding the likes of Gerald Wiekens and the mighty Danny Tiato to our squad for peanuts. WHile Utd fans cheered on Giggs, Keane, Van Nistleroy, Rio our gods were Shaun Goater, Gary Flitcroft, Uwe Rosler, Paul Walsh and Georgie Kinkladze, and whilst Utd kept Fergie we were going through managers like they were going out of fashion.

Then the money came. From Shinawatra. Then he got arrested and his money frozen in his accounts. How typically City.

Then the money came for real. I remeber seeing the news flash up on Yahoo and my first thought was "Yay stability is ours", I didn't realise what it really meant.

Since the money I am sure City have got many more fans and after yesterday I am sure they will have many more. How many 10 year olds are going into school this morning now supporting this club. The newer fans will not realise what it has been like following this club over the last 20 years (obviously longer for those older fans). They just got a taste of it yesterday. Why do anything simple when you can do it City.

I couldn't think of a better way to end an era than that. The only way to hurt Utd fans was to do it that way, give them hope, hell they were champions for 2 minutes. To do it in Fergie added on time then listen to the Utd fans complain of "Why 5 minutes" oh the irony. How epic how typically City.

On the trophy it won't say the league was won on goal difference, it won't say it was won with the last kick of the season, but what it does say for the first time ever is something I never thought it would.

Manchester City, Champions.

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That's very controlled. Fecker.:roflmao:

If you go to the Etihad to see it, make sure they're keeping it very shiney for us to rightfully take back to Old Trafford next year.

Like you, I followed my team through years of pain (6-0 away to Ipswich springs to mind) in the 70's and 80's and I went through the 30 years of pain with Liverpool fans. Since then all United fans have been labelled glory supporters which isn't always the case. You will, as you say, now attract them all over the world and you'll be the team everyone loves to beat.

In the meantime, congratulations. I have never felt so much pain in such little time in football. I'll admit, it gutted me like no other result ever has.

One minute the trophy is having red and black ribbons put on it, the next it's white and sky blue.

It was, however, a fantastic advertisement for the Premier League and over the course of the season you deserve the win. I applaud our professionalism in going to the end and I also think Ferguson deserves credit for the way he congratulated City. That's it for another year, and what a year it was.

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Lol, as someone who doesn't have any real interest in soccer (I say soccer because it annoys football fans :grin: ) I find it hugely amusing that people take it so seriously, and live their lives around it, some of the stuff on Facebook at the moment, and the arguments are utterly hilarious.

There is nothing funnier than overweight middle aged men in costumes shouting each other!

The other thing that amuses me are comments such as MrMe's above, that the trophy will be back in its 'rightful' place next year! Lol, it's rightful place is with whoever wins it, no team has any more 'right' to win it than any other.

Some of the idiots on Facebook are utterly hilarious, people who you'd assume would be sensible, rational people exploding in fits of four letter outbursts, seriously, it's only football.

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Some of the idiots on Facebook are utterly hilarious, people who you'd assume would be sensible, rational people exploding in fits of four letter outbursts, seriously, it's only football.

Just on Facebook?!

My cats still haven't emerged from hiding after my outburst yesterday afternoon ;)

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Lol, as someone who doesn't have any real interest in soccer (I say soccer because it annoys football fans :grin: ) I find it hugely amusing that people take it so seriously, and live their lives around it, some of the stuff on Facebook at the moment, and the arguments are utterly hilarious.

There is nothing funnier than overweight middle aged men in costumes shouting each other!

The other thing that amuses me are comments such as MrMe's above, that the trophy will be back in its 'rightful' place next year! Lol, it's rightful place is with whoever wins it, no team has any more 'right' to win it than any other.

Some of the idiots on Facebook are utterly hilarious, people who you'd assume would be sensible, rational people exploding in fits of four letter outbursts, seriously, it's only football.

If you don't understand it, don't try to. You never will.

It doesn't make anyone an idiot, or no moreso than you calling them idiots just because you don't understand how they feel.

Newcastle United do have a right. It's our trophy, it always will be, and we'll have it back, so put that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr Boring Southerner Who Wouldn't Know Sporting Passion If It Bit Him On The Arse! :grin:

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One quote sums it up perfectly (can't remember if it was Shankly).

Football isn't a matter of life or death. It's more important than that.

It was indeed Shankly. The full quote was:

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that".

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Saying it is one thing, believing it to be more important than life is something else.:roflmao:

If you want to witness it in the extreme you should try being in an office in the Northeast the weekend of a Tyne & Wear derby, or in Glasgow when the Old Firm play.

I've been in places where football calendars have had to be banned because people deface them and start fighting. I've known people (lots) ring in sick on a Monday because they can't face the opposition fans in the workplace after a defeat.

I also know a guy (a Newcastle fan) who met the woman of his dreams, until 3 weeks into the relationship he discovered her Father and Mother were Sunderland season ticket holders and he couldn't bear it - so he dumped her for that reason alone. She had no interest in football at all, but he said they could never have a future if he had to be related to Mackem fans.:roflmao:

To him it was and remains a very serious business.

Despite what I say, most of us wouldn't let it in get that involved in our personal lives. However, I've also got a client who is a huge Sunderland fan and refuses to deal with companies whose owners support Newcastle. It was the first question he ever asked me, and that's 100% true!

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I can well believe it, trust me, having been brought up around football, and the most die hard Arsenal fans on the planet, I've seen it all.

It's probably why I'm not really interested in football too, I've always been an awkward git and never done what I was told, so having football rammed down my throat 24/7 and every holiday we ever went on revolving around visiting football grounds all around the world meant I was only ever going to push it away, that said, whilst I'm not bothered about missing a game, no matter how 'important' it may be, I still follow what's going on.

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Classless as ever.

Here's City's opportunity to put the 'small club mentality' behind them - an apology and reprimand for Tevez would buy them a lot of credibility.

Carlos Tevez filmed holding up 'R.I.P. Fergie' poster on Manchester City parade bus | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

Mind you, it really does show what an utter **** Tevez really is.

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Classless as ever.

Here's City's opportunity to put the 'small club mentality' behind them - an apology and reprimand for Tevez would buy them a lot of credibility.

Carlos Tevez filmed holding up 'R.I.P. Fergie' poster on Manchester City parade bus | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

Mind you, it really does show what an utter **** Tevez really is.

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Not sure how that equals "small club mentality" however City have issued an apology

So have we now got our credibility back? Please say we have Twinspark, I couldn't bear it if we didn't get your approval.

City, Utd, any club should not have its reputation balanced on the antics of one or two certain individuals or are we saying ALL utd players sleep with aging hookers (wazza) or like to spy on girls using the toilet (chief exec).

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I think you lot have all lost your sense of humour.

It is apparently a reference to Fergie's responce re playing 2nd fiddle to City "Over my head body" back in 2009. It that regard it is quite witty IMO.

A little tasteless out of context maybe but witty nonetheless.

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I think you lot have all lost your sense of humour.

It is apparently a reference to Fergie's responce re playing 2nd fiddle to City "Over my head body" back in 2009. It that regard it is quite witty IMO.

A little tasteless out of context maybe but witty nonetheless.

Anyone with an ounce of sense and decency would surely have considered that the potential offence to the majority who wouldn't know the reference massively outweighed the guffaws of the few that did.

In context it is quite witty, and I'm sure would even raise a smile from SAF himself. But waved around on top of a bus is not in context.

People like Tevez aside, I'm hoping for a new era of genuine direct competition that generates as much mutual respect as it does rivalry.

Let's face it, United need a new biggest rival for the next couple of decades or more while Liverpool sort their sorry act out.

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As a neutral watching the end of this year's Premiership has been more interesting than any I could possibly remember. Garcon has a point on better competition. Better competition means you have to better, right?

Next year should be a corker +++

You get the same in Rugby, everyone was gunning for France in the Six Nations this year for example, made for far better than expected games.

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