Milo Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm approaching the time when I need to consider my options about selling the current car ahead of collecting the new one. Webuyanycar are quoting what I would consider to be an unrealistically high price and I'm fully aware of their tactics i.e. get you in on the promise of £££s then reducing it due to their spin on the condition etc. But does anyone have any firm info as to how much piss they take? Maybe in % terms? I feel guilty troubling Booster all the time for realistic valuations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 webuyanycar quote accuracy isn't that an oxymoron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterS Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I sold our old A3 to WBAC when I bought the merc. MBs trade in offer was around £400 less than WBAC offered, which was an offer that I thought was a touch high. I couldn't be bothered to sell it myself, though I'm sure it cost me at least a grand not dong so. I was scrupulous in detailing every bit of damage as objectively as I could (every kerbed alloy, slight scratch, stone chipped bonnet, scuffed bumper etc) and when I took it in he couldn't find anything to chip me down on Had a good chat with him actually; he said that so many people pretend that their 5 year old Picasso is in immaculate condition, low mileage with FSH when the reality is the cars a dog! Likewise my Dad sold a BMW 525d touring to them; agan he didn't want the hassle of a private sale. It was a 7 years old, 120k miles, well maintained but showing damage commensurate with being well used; agan describing it as honestly as he could. He was chipped £300 on a £6k or so offer on the basis of an exhaust that was blowing, so 5% What they didn't check was the iDrive, which would have told them that the DPF was due for replacement in a couple Of thousand miles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Don't feel guilty mate! They will kick you in the balls so hard it is ridiculous. They rely on the fact that you have got a lift there and are desperate. They will also keep you waiting for hours. They are owned by Carcraft. Enough said. http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews109325.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I sold my Range Rover to them a few years back. Offered me £18k, then called up on the day of sale to say they could only offer £17k. I took it anyway. It was literally pissing diesel out of somewhere under the bonnet. And they arnt cheap to fix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Like any other dealer, unless it's suitable for their own pitch (where they make all their money on finance), they will only make you an offer based on actual trade offers or bid you in the bollocks and probably auction it. I remember when Carcraft was a single pitch in Rochdale. Vaguely knew the brothers who own and run it. WBAC more or less saved them from bankruptcy having expanded way too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I'm approaching the time when I need to consider my options about selling the current car ahead of collecting the new one.Webuyanycar are quoting what I would consider to be an unrealistically high price and I'm fully aware of their tactics i.e. get you in on the promise of £££s then reducing it due to their spin on the condition etc. But does anyone have any firm info as to how much piss they take? Maybe in % terms? I feel guilty troubling Booster all the time for realistic valuations Yours is genuinely absolutely immaculate and any private buyer will immediately be aware you have clearly looked after it. Post it / let me post it on RS246 and Audi SRS, much better solution that WBAC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just been onto their website and tested it for our Avant. A6, 2001, 2.7T Tip, 215K miles............ WBAC valuation £540, before they look at it and knock it down £200 more for a few scratches/bumps. That's a good few £'*00.00 less than we are getting in part-ex value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I screwed Audi down to the floor with the deal on the new car, even more than I hoped for. Like all p/ex deals, it's ying and yang. The more discount you get, the less generous the p/ex offer will be. They openly said they'd only offer bottom book as there was not enough left in it to offer a great p/ex. I've got the option of p/exing it but I'll prob get as much going to WBAC. I'll try both nearer the time. A private sale (given the condition of it and how it's been maintained etc) is the best option but that throws up issues with timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterS Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 A private sale (given the condition of it and how it's been maintained etc) is the best option but that throws up issues with timing. And also means dealing with the general public My experience is if its the kind of car they'll retail (and I have no idea whether a 2.0T A4 Avant is or not) and you're upfront about the true condition of it then they won't knock you down much, if at all. I'm sure our 4 year old, 35,000 mile 3 door silver A3 ended up on one of their forecourts But if it's not retail fodder for them, or they can find any kind of fault, then I'd expect to be low-balled Having said that if you have a trade in offer from Audi then at least you know what your floor price needs to be :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Audi wouldn't stick a 2006 on the forecourt, but Fontain might be worth a shout regarding a straight sale, they are always after well specced, top condition, low mileage cars with FASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I've got a figure in my head which i think is a realistic price for a quick sale on my terms. The wbac 'offer' was way above that, unrealistically high, hence my initial question. They could knock off quite a large chunk and I'd still be clicking my heels. The sentimental side of me would rather see it sold privately to someone who really wants it but ultimately, it's about the logistics of the sale and £££s. If I can't find a private buyer who will take it, I'll try Audi and another local place and wbac, and take the highest offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Webuyanycar.com are a bunch of money-grabbing bastards. Sell it to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 They may well be, but their money is as good as anyone's. If they bid the even £100 more than the dealer and I can't be bothered with a private sale, then i'd take it. I could afford for them to knock a 4 figure sum off what they have offered and still walk away a happy bunny. That said, I know what they've bid is unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasdrury Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I think it's all down to the car, a friend of mine wanted rid of a year old Mito last year, they offered loads more than any other PX and didn't knock him down one £ from the quoted price. Money in 3 days, took 20 mins at the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 They are no worse than lots of franchised car dealers. I have sold to them and they were 10% better than the next highest bidder net of hitting me about 3% on the day. Where they are on value all depends on their pricing model which varies day to day. They pay a percentage of book and this varies by model etc etc. Can be 80%, can be 120% just depends when you catch them. Personally I paid the fee for money on the day as I don't trust any business not to go bust. CHAPS is too risky to my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scillyisles Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 CHAPS is too risky to my mind. You clearly know very little about CHAPS - one of the big reasons for CHAPS is to remove risk and guarantee settlement finality. CHAPS payments are irrevocable and are fully cleared RTGS funds - you cannot get any safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterS Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I assumed he probably meant BACS, rather then CHAPS, since it takes longer. Though in both cases, once they've got your car your'e exposed. Its just with CHAPS you'll know by COB same day whether you've been had, whereas with BACS its 2 days later!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scillyisles Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I assumed he probably meant BACS, rather then CHAPS, since it takes longer. Though in both cases, once they've got your car your'e exposed. Its just with CHAPS you'll know by COB same day whether you've been had, whereas with BACS its 2 days later!! CHAPS is real time in the sense that the funds are actually transferred instantaneously with the MT96 that comes from the RTGS system at the Bank of England. All the CHAPS clearing banks can see the funds immediately and they are fully cleared and irrevocable. This is why house purchases use CHAPS. Waiting until COB is not really required most banks have corporate electrnic banking systems that enable corporates to make Chaps payments which send the payments more or less immediately. Faster payments is another method which is more or less instantaneous for consumer payments upto £10k and corporate payments upto £100k. You could do both these payment methods at the corporate premises to avoid the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 MT96, RTGS etc The Club? You clearly spent time in settlements or on a sterling money desk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 You clearly know very little about CHAPS - one of the big reasons for CHAPS is to remove risk and guarantee settlement finality. CHAPS payments are irrevocable and are fully cleared RTGS funds - you cannot get any safer. Apologies must have got it the wrong way round. I meant that I would not accept the three day transfer. Too risky given how often businesses like this go bust. Always worth paying extra for same day transfer. Or take payment in Jessops vouchers................ PS You must have realised I had just got my CHAPS/BACS the wrong way round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) The relevance of WBAC's quotation system is no longer an issue I hope to see it looking this shiny in 12 months time..... Edited January 28, 2013 by Milo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You sold it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 As of the end of February, I will no longer own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Why do I get the feeling there's an Audi sales manager sobbing bitterly into his beer this evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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