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Why?  Billy and I might not get on most of the time but he is due to give me some stick and that's what football is about from a fans perspective of rivalry!

 

If you can't sit and take it, it is time to start following Rugby and become a big girls blouse where you're expected to say how wonderful everyone is, no matter who they play for. :grin:

 

The City penalty from UEFA is laughable though.  They've known about the rules for years now, have actively employed advisors to try to circumvent them and the most the get is a £32m fine and a completely pointless squad reduction for a club of their resources.  It just gives the green light for more rule breaches.

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So I suppose just as the Arsenal fans were delusional and brainwashed enough to think that one signing solved all their problems in the summer, I'm sure they'll now be delusional and brainwashed enough to believe that one fluked domestic cup erases 9 years of failure.

 

I can usually accept that the team that wins a trophy deserved it but not today. Arsenal didn't deserve to be in the final, and they definitely didn't deserve to win it.

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I remain perplexed at the excitement of Arsenal fans at winning something like the FA Cup. 

 

Then again, most of them were still at school the last time they won anything whatsoever.  Cue lots of claims of global success and 'this is just the start'. 

 

Yes, the start of another 9 years waiting for a trophy that means nothing...

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Phew, it makes a change for AFC to come back from some early goals.

 

So yes, I and 99.9% of AFC fans will be happy and that we can push on from there - if some decent signings are made.

 

However, watching the game to day, I thought Hull were both lucky and unlucky.  The ref helped them a lot with 2 stonewall penaties not given.  They were saved by the crossbar too, but AFC won as the fitness was higher and still had the legs at the end.

In saying that, Hull were very unlucky not to have been 3 up and not to have equalised 1 min from time, along with AFC STILL wanting to walk the ball into the net at the end instead of blasting it past McGregor to make it 4-2 in nearly the last kick.

 

Anyway, some silverware down south for a change!

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I never quite understand the loathing a vitriol shown by Utd fans specifically against Arsenal on this forum???

 

Garcon summed it up.

 

Oh, and coupled with the fact Arsenal are the only club in the world to think you can be a 'big' club (in achievements) without ever having won the Champions League.  You can't.

 

Oh and then we have the fact 99% of all Arsenal fans turn quicker than a tornado.  Less than 12 months ago, they all wanted Wenger sacked (and they would have done today too if Hull had won, which they deserved to).  They're the biggest bunch of turncoat fans on the planet (TwinSpark should support them).

 

Someone has already said "push on from here". :roflmao:

 

They've never even successfully defended the Premier League title. :roflmao:

 

This was the FA Cup. :roflmao:

 

I think that'll do for now. +++

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I'd like to be a Professional in my field where swearing at the Referee, spitting out the content of my sinuses and lashing out at an opponent was acceptable...

Good point, Garçon, I could become an MSP in the Government of the People's Republic of Scotland.......

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I was reading yesterday - "It is one hour since Arsenal last won a trophy".

 

I prefer the reality of - "It is 10 years since Arsenal last won a trophy that matters".

 

Look, I don't have 'vitriolic hatred' toward Arsenal.  I simply think they're one of the most over-hyped clubs/teams of the last decade. 

 

I also see signs in this thread that some viewers were fooled by the once again appalling commentary from ITV.  It would be madness to think Arsenal had two blatant penalties denied.  They didn't  Just because Andy Townsend and his co-criminal-in-commentary say something is a penalty, doesn't mean it is.

 

Replays clearly show Giroud did more diving than humanly imaginable.  The 'push' from Huddlestone didn't exist.  The only person who deserves any credit is Gibbs for clearing off the line for what would have been 0-3. 

 

The awarding of the MOTM to Ramsey was a disgrace.  So he scored a wonderfully taken goal, I'll not deny that.  But this is ITV and Townsend to the core.  Give the MOTM award to whoever scores the winning goal.  It is absolutely bizarre.  Huddlestone was outstanding yesterday.  Chester was superb.  None of the Arsenal players outshone them to take that award, and certainly not a guy who made one contribution to the game in its dying moments.  I'm not saying Ramsey was crap, but he certainly wasn't MOTM.

 

ITV are going to have to sort their commentators out for next year because some of the comments those two have been giving for the last 6-8 months has been laughable.  We've discussed this before on here too, so Arsenal fans can't say this is anti-Arsenal stuff. 

 

If Arsenal fans want to think the FA Cup is a major victory for them, then so be it.  When you've been starved of success I can imagine it is a relief of kinds, but the reality is that this is a supposedly 'big' club that keeps failing badly. 

 

Next year, United will be back as usual.  City will have strengthened (albeit slightly).  Chelsea are almost certain to and spend again.  Liverpool will be challenging for the Champions League places again by the looks of it, if they keep Suarez (if they can't keep him they'll slip out of those spots for certain).  Spurs, well who knows?  As long as that idiot of a Chairman is at the helm it is anyones guess.

 

So where will it leave Arsenal?  They're not going to win the league in the near future and we all know their manager is a man desperately low on confidence.

 

Yet again Arsenal didn't win over any additional fans because of the constant diving, running the referee and all the elements that are now sadly so associated with the club.  Garcon is right with much of the source of my dislike of Arsenal.  The tactics of Keown and Co. way back when were a disgrace and you tend not to forget that type of stuff, especially when their fans seemed to think it was acceptable.  I still cringe when I see Keown on the TV now, as some form of 'creditable' pundit.  He was a good defender, but is antics on the pitch were deplorable.

 

You can see from my 'credit to City' posts that I'll applaud a club when they deserve it.  City do, this year.  Arsenal don't.  Hyped up to high heavens yet again and they finish the season with a trophy that, if we're all going to be honest about it, isn't really anything to the big clubs nowadays, except when in pursuit of a treble, double or a small consolation prize for a failed season.  They won more than United, well done.  But the real Arsenal fans, deep down, know that the club has just splatted a tiny bit of foundation over a very ugly face that they'll wake up with in the morning and have to prepare for further continued failure long into the future.

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:roflmao: such bitterness.

As a lifelong Arsenal fan, it feels good to lift some silverware, of course those that aren't lifting it will say 'mickey mouse cup' etc, but that's to be expected and usual fare from anyone that didn't win anything.

Ok so it's been a while since we won anything, but if you want to talk history, how many times have Arsenal been relegated? Never.

The thing that makes Arsenal strong, is also the thing that is our biggest weakness, stability.

I can't honestly say I think this is the beggining of good times, but it's amazing what a bit of silverware can do to boost a teams morale, and hopefully this will spur us on to better things.

I don't usually talk football because 99.9% of all football talk is biased bullshit, I also don't get the hatred of other teams, at the end of the day, whoever you support, we are all fans of football, had we lost, i'd have been happy for the Hull fans, just as i'd be happy for the fans of any team, of course I want 'my' team to win, but i'll happily shake the hand of any other fan who's team beat us.

Ultimately, the best team does win, to suggest anything else, or that they didn't deserve it, is just stupidity, the Hull fans can go home with their heads held high though, they were the underdogs, and they put up a bloody good fight.

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I'm not a big hater/lover of Arsenal, but it appears a lot of the piss-taking is coming from Man U fans. Especially the references to how long it was since Arsenal had won a trophy and how long they think it'll be before they win another.

Which is ironic really, as I can't see Man U winning another trophy for the foreseeable future. They've fallen too far behind their peers and it's going to take many years for them to try and close the gap.

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