Scotty Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 WTF do they put in West Ham Christmas pud every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Smalling is a liability we need rid off. Falcao being subbed was easily the most bizarre decision of the day though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He did look shocked to be coming off. Poor tactical changes all round with Januzaj playing as a wingback. Stoke battered Utd after LVG made his changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Double post Edited January 2, 2015 by billy2shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 It's one of the more incredible factors of the season so far that United still look so poor defensively and yet find themselves in 3rd place and only 9 points off the pace. It just shows how shockingly bad Arsenal and Liverpool have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He did look shocked to be coming off. If I'd been Falcao, after putting in the performance he did, I'd have lamped Van Gaal on the way to the bench. He had been outstanding and makes Van Persie look like an ornament with his work-rate. An absolutely fantastic player and a real fans player too. La Marca and others are reporting the deal is to be sealed permanently soon. Thank god for that. There is no way on this earth you can let a player of his undoubted quality go elsewhere without it coming back to haunt you in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 FA Cup. Just need to dispatch Millwall at home after drawing 3-3 at the weekend and we'll have Chelsea away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Wimbledon playing Liverpool - where's Vinnie Jones?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile, Manchester United are single-handedly guaranteeing the future survival of League Two clubs for the next 20 years. Edited January 5, 2015 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wimbledon playing Liverpool - where's Vinnie Jones?! Tell you what was funny about that - Dave Bassett debunking some of the "crazy gang" stories as self-promoting nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 This AFC Wimbledon lark does my head in. Wimbledon, the original Wimbledon, are not AFC Wimbledon. They are MK Dons. AFC Wimbledon are the entirely new Wimbledon. There, clear as mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Meanwhile, Manchester United are single-handedly guaranteeing the future survival of League Two clubs for the next 20 years. They should make all the Prem ship clubs play away from home if they are drawn against League 1, 2 or lower in the cup competitions. That way, they would ensure more lower level club survival. Will stop the FA from wringing their hands and lamenting the loss of clubs and/or the game blah blah blah.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 No thanks. I enjoy an all premier league clash in the 3rd round. Your (talk sports) suggestion would stop that happening. It's a way of seeding teams, keeping them apart. Plus smaller teams make more money from playing away at the big grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Indeed, a lot of the smaller clubs would ask for a ground change with these types of games. Many choose not to and hope for a replay, but there doesn't need to be any forced ties with Premier League clubs being forced to play lower league teams. They're ties that I hate to watch. The Premier League clubs are in a no-win situation. They get mocked if they lose and mocked if they don't win 0-10. Then, even if they managed that, they get told "Well of course you did, look at where they are in the league".That said, if we can draw those clubs all the way to the final and then beat Liverpool with a last minute own goal scored by Steven Gerrard, I'll be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Billy & NNMM:- That's not what I have suggested. I have suggested that IF a Prem team gets drawn against a lower tier side, then the tie should be played at the lower tier's ground. Alternatively, as NNMM mentioned, the lower tier team might ask for a ground swap so they can get more punters in, as it might be a once in lifetime opportunity for some players/fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 But why? Your suggestion means that the lower league team gets to host a premier league team. You also suggest they can swap if they like. This would result in some smaller teams playing at home and some playing away, a bit like what happens now? Your saying the smaller teams can give up the right to be the home team. They can do this already! So I'm not too sure what your suggested changes will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I am not sure how the revenue streams work in the FA Cup. Presumably, the prem teams do not 'need' the revenue that a lower tier team would bring. BUT a lower tier team would love the revenue that a prem team visit would bring. It could fill their coffers for a few years. Your suggestion means that the lower league team gets to host a premier league team. Yep. For the above reason. Obviously, if Eastbourne Utd were to get drawn against Man City, the Eastbourne aren't very likely to suggest a ground swap for the game as it's too far. I just think they should give the lower tier teams the options of both the revenue stream for the prem team game AND the local glory of being able to host them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 We are season ticket holders at Eastbourne Utd! The ground is actually quite nice, and has had some money invested in it over the years, but simply wouldn't cope with a game like that, we've hosted some big teams over the years and it's always carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Cruiser, your suggestions are based on you misunderstanding something. Small clubs will earn a huge amount more playing away rather than at home. Yeovil v Utd as an example, I would guess Yeovil would have earned 5x more playing away. Plus ALL the Yeovil players would have loved to play at old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Might be wrong but I think gate receipts are split 75% home, 25% away for the FA Cup. Also believe the away team is able to request up to a 25% allocation if segregation logistics allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Lower league team at HOME. 75% of 2000-5000 seats at £10-£20 a ticket vs Lower League team AWAY 25% of 25000 - 50000 seats at £20-£45 per ticket. Edited January 7, 2015 by billy2shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) The suggestion that the Premier League team be forced to play a tie at a lower league ground is completely non-sensical. Why should a top tier team give ground advantage if they'd been originally drawn at home? Yeovil, Cambridge etc, they don't have the playing surface Old Trafford does (as an example). That doesn't favour United! It goes massively against them. Yes they should still win, of course they should, but this is about the dream of the FA Cup and the pairings it can give - not handing as much advantage as possible to the lower leagues. The revenues they (the lower leagues) get are still massive without ground-swapping, but at least they have the option. Yeovil could have earned much more playing at Old Trafford. Guaranteed 75,000 crowd, 25% of high ticket price sales. However, they get TV money and clubs have wised up to something else - the role they play in the community. It has been estimated that by retaining a match at a lower league ground the club brings in a fortune to the Town itself - to businesses, hotels, retailers, etc. If they ship out to Manchester, everyone goes and stays in Manchester and that gets the economy boost. That is one of the main reasons that a lot of these clubs come under much bigger pressure nowadays to stay at home if that's what the draw initially said. p.s. just to put that last point into context, there was reported to be over 50 foreign journalists at the Yeovil match and even a Portugese TV station. They came because it had captured imagination. Do you think they'd have bothered to go to Old Trafford? Not a chance. Edited January 7, 2015 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Fair enough, but this part is a good thing for the locals:- p.s. just to put that last point into context, there was reported to be over 50 foreign journalists at the Yeovil match and even a Portugese TV station. They came because it had captured imagination. Do you think they'd have bothered to go to Old Trafford? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Man Utd v Yeovil guaranteed 75000 crowd?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Man Utd v Yeovil guaranteed 75000 crowd?? Easily. The club 'average' attendance in all competitions is 74,600. Old Trafford is almost always full. Unlike your small pretend club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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