Cuprabob Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) I heard in the news that a couple of fans had travelled from Dallas,TX, however I very much doubt the game was the reason for their trip:-) Edited May 16, 2016 by Cuprabob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I heard in the news that a couple of fans had travelled from Dallas,TX, however I very much doubt the game was the reason for their trip:-) There was also fans from Azerbaijan who'd been saving for 6 years to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 It's worth remembering that most United fans will have travelled further than the Bournemouth fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 It's worth remembering that most United fans will have travelled further than the Bournemouth fans. You stole that. *I almost did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I didn't. Although I'm sure others had the same thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I didn't. Although I'm sure others had the same thought. I still can't stop laughing at this one... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Apparently Bmth fans are getting free coach travel tomorrow evening. Dunno who's paying for it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Bournemouth FC are paying for it (according to the announcement on their website). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 By rights it should be ManU - but nice gesture nonetheless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Re the England selection, I'm not entirely convinced Rashford will make it, remember 3 players have to be cut before the deadline. Edited May 16, 2016 by Tipex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Given that Sturridge will probably injure himself checking in, I'd at least take Rashford to the airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Personally think that Defoe has been very unlucky. Loads of goals in pressure games for a struggling side and still missed out. I'm fed up with building for the future, let's play the best players now. Vardy and Kane are better but they have no tournament experience which is why Defoe should be in the fist 26 at least. As garçon says, Sturrage can't be trusted to stay fit and Wazza is playing left back these days for his club. That's a lot of pressure on Kane and Vardy. Maybe the midfield can help out, Wilshire, Sterling, Llalana, Drinkwater, Henderson, Dier , Townsend, Deli Ali, how many international goals have they got between them 10 at a guess. I get that Roy wants to look at Hendo and Wilshire but I hope he doesn't take both and once again go to a championship with injury question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Re the England selection, I'm not entirely convinced Rashford will make it, remember 3 players have to be cut before the deadline. I am 100% certain he will (barring injury). The last thing that I think Hodgson will be cutting is a striker. If he was to do it I think iit'd be Sturridge because of his horrendous fitness record. However, he'll take 5 strikers in my opinion. Henderson, Wilshere, leave them at home. One is shite and the other is a walking hospital ward. Then drop John Stones. I'm sorry, I know some people really rate him and I did last year too, but he has had a shocker of a season and looks a tenth of the player he was. I'm sure he'll recover, but not right now. On the Defoe selection, yes I'd take him over Sturridge. I just don't think Hodgson can put him there in place of Rashford. The latter gives us a lot more options and is a very strong player on the ball. Kane and Vardy are shoe-in players, obviously. Rooney? As a striker I'd not take him. As a striker/midfielder, given our abject lack of creativity in midfield, I don't think we can leave him at home. Edited May 16, 2016 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just got back from the end of term party. I live pretty close to Victoria Park where the parade culminated. All the schools shut at 1pm and we were on the park from 3pm. I have never been in a crowd like that before. Don't think the roads will be busy tomorrow on my way to work!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 As used by the Mrs in her Facebook update. Not been in a crowd like that before. Proper party!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 C'mon Derby, prove em all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Good finish by United - LVG will be preparing for next season already now that he is staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Good luck to Sevilla tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Good luck to Sevilla tonight. I can just imagine the pain of Man U supporters if Liverpool win. Another (lesser) European Cup and a place in the CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I can just imagine the pain of Man U supporters if Liverpool win. Another (lesser) European Cup and a place in the CL British team in the final and it's only on fecking BT Sport. How on earth the contract doesn't allow for free to air TV to show the match in the event of a British team making the final is just wrong. If anything it would allow the opposite - if a British team didn't make a final. The whole attraction of it to BT was the knowledge of how prized the Champions League would be to English fans of English clubs. I don't like it but the fact is that your club, my club and many others are going to benefit hugely from the competition that BT has brought to football in the buying stakes. If they hadn't entered the market we'd not have half the money coming in next year. Spain is bricking itself. Both they and Germany genuinely haven't a clue how they'll compete in 2-3 years time. The next Messi and Ronaldo won't stay at Barca and Real - they won't be able to resist the pull of the money in the Premier League. It might not appeal to the purist and I'm not saying I think it is the best thing, but English football fans are going to get the cream of the crop in the next 2-5 years. That is going to start in a months time when your new boss sanctions the biggest deal ever to bring Messi to the club - because that's precisely what will happen. They can afford to do it now because of the revenues coming in next year and not being hit with FFP. £250m-300m. That should do it. Barcelona won't be able to say no either because they can no longer afford to. They'll all be desperate to come here in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I know you can't have it both ways and it's just the romantic in me that feels the majority of the British public should be able to watch a British team in a European final. Sacrifices where made for cash thought and that's the world we live in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I think it is easy to forget how much Sky has given football - and how much football it has given us too! I recall, as I know many others including you will, how the only football on TV was FA Cup finals, latter stage European Cup games and the odd Cups Winner Cup or UEFA Cup match along with FA Cup matches (only ever between the big clubs or them and the minnows) and MOTD (oh and the League Cup final but I also remember when that wasn't even deemed worthy!). I was speaking to a relative of mine a few years back (he's 31-32) and he couldn't believe that, before Sky, the only coverage of league football was on MOTD! That, of course, was back in the day when I went to matches. I had no choice if I wanted to see my club. It happened in the Euro's and Wiorld Cup too. I wonder how many people can remember the World Cup Final's when the only games you'd see on TV were the very big matches. If you wanted live coverage of other games you'd find yourself looking through hundreds of LW/MW channels on your radio and usually finding awful and indecipherable coverage from a foreign land (that always lost signal when someone scored). As for football from other leagues, well nobody had a clue. Channel 4 are often forgotten as being pioneers of that with Serie A. That was superb and I've read elsewhere that the huge popularity of that is what got a lot of the other broadcasters thinking about how big football could be. Sky transformed the way the world looks at football and football finances. Some of it for the bad but most of it for the good in my view. I'm pretty sure Garcon and a few others (yourself included) might recall what grounds were like in the late 1970's and 80's (and beyond to a degree). It wasn't good. Some will moan about how the money hasn't filtered down but I'd ask any of those people to compare a Championship club experience today of that in the decades before. We'll never know for certain but I'm not even sure football could have survived in England (in the way we would recognise it) for much longer. I think we'd have had no choice but to go for a European Super League much sooner than we're ever likely to. If there was one thing I absolutely loathe about what money has brought to the game through TV - it is agents. Not all of them, but a good many. I don't see the broadcasters as those to blame. I see the agents more to blame even moreso than the players. They take young minds and mould them into thinking money is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure Garcon and a few others (yourself included) might recall what grounds were like in the late 1970's and 80's (and beyond to a degree). It wasn't good. Some will moan about how the money hasn't filtered down but I'd ask any of those people to compare a Championship club experience today of that in the decades before. And much beyond in the lower leagues. I stopped going regularly 5 or so years ago, but even then there were several lower league grounds and stands that should have been condemned, including two stands at Boundary Park (one now replaced, the other still in use). The trickle down hasn't worked at all, beyond maybe the top two thirds of the Championship - clubs that have probably been in the Premiership at some point and harbour realistic hopes of returning. So, yes we have the richest top division in the world, with a new tv deal that will take them out of the reach of even Championship clubs. 25 years of Sky has transformed the top tier. At the same time, the lower two divisions are full of clubs that are fundamentally financially unviable, paying players less in real terms than they did ten or twenty years ago, playing in semi-derelict grounds in front of fewer fans. Slowly, clubs that have been in the professional divisions for a century and more are dropping into non-league. Most clubs in the conference are now richer than most clubs in League Two. That's great for those up and coming non-league clubs who, having made it into League Two, frequently go straight up again to League One. It's not so great for those skint lower league clubs and their towns. Hereford gone altogether, Stockport two divisions down, Tranmere, Wrexham, Lincoln, Torquay in the conference, York relegated this season ... all with many years in the league, few with much hope of ever getting back. Edited May 18, 2016 by garcon magnifique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Indeed I know a fair bit about football finance and the realities away from the Premier league football is more broken today than every before as until recently my Wife was the FC or once Premier League club and is still in touch with some of the Prem and Championship FC/FD contacts. Some clubs get used to and hooked on the money within the Premier league but as soon as that slug of money or drug if you will goes they do everything to get it back which ultimately can kill the club altogether. The number of clubs in the Championship that are close to the brink is quite high and despite the posturing there isn't much the league are doing to avert this despite their best or at times worst efforts. Then here we are with someone like Leicester admittedly a bit of a one off with one of the lowest wage bills winning the very league thats the richest in the world. Football for me is still about the heart and passion which is why I still care little about the top leagues and still prefer to go to a non-league game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 At 34 I can only just remember the times before Sky and watching The Big Match on ITV. As you say MoTD was the only football highlight of the week oh and Saint and Greavsy. Ch4's Italien coverage was a game changer that wouldn't have come about without Gazzas move to Lazio an Walker and Platt going to Sampdoria. As an 11 year old I went to almost all of Bournemouth's home games until I was 18 so from about 93-00. Dean court was a real dive and the attendance was often in the 2000's. Stands on 3 sides and seating on the one side. That was still the same until about 5 years ago. It's funny because someone put a picture up on FB of Dean Court in the 70's and it hadn't changed until 2010ish. That's criminal and is evidence that the money didn't filter down. Year after year of going bust whilst all the Premier League clubs got richer and richer. Whilst Bournemouth players came to our school on a weekly basis with buckets taking our lunch money, those premier league clubs were wasting millions on foreign players that no one had ever heard of. Great memories in many ways but it should/could be so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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