S3Bangs Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Come again Jim. Apparently, I drive like a girl. (Not Rachel mind you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Would you agree about the rflts jim, was yours fitted with the michelin pilot ss's. Pop over to babybmw S3 some very good info in the sub M135i/235i forum. Think you need to check your tyre pressures, pretty sure your on rflt's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 No I had the runflats. Specified from the factory by me. I find the sidewalls of the PSS to soft. The steering and general feel is much more precise in my opinion on the Bridgestones and well worth sacrificing some dry grip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 The PSS's grip surprisingly well in wet conditions Jim, driving within normal perameters of course. Read an article in EVO a while back, they were interviewing the Head of M Division, and he was saying they dont use rflt's on the M cars for the exact reasons you have just described. As you correctly state the M135i will leave the factory shod with PSS's unless rflt's have been specified.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 CJ, Bridgestone Potenzas all round. 36psi all round when I checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Don't forget the suspension setup. Getting the car to someone experienced who can fine tune it to suit you is priceless, can give you so much more confidence in the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Never thought I'd see the day, but Tony has turned and needs to go off and join the macrame club and start playing bridge with the WI on a Tuesday evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 CJ, Bridgestone Potenzas all round. 36psi all round when I checked Yep Rflt's and those pressures sound rather high for just you in the car, explains the skittish handling. I would go 34psi all round and see how that feels. You probably need to be between 32 and 34psi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 CJ, I will try and reduce or play around with the tyre pressures and see what happens Patently, how can they setup the car for my needs? Where would I take it to, to get this done? I don't push the car hard and I've vowed it's never going in Sport+ mode. Still, in the modes I drive. I'm sooooo careful. In actual fact. I only mostly drive in the docile Eco-Pro mode. That's what I'm comfortable with. As much as I laugh... You're a twat Charles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Whatever, bitch. This'll be right down your street 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Have never used Eco Pro, my favoured mode is Sport and Comfort when just running about. Have a play with the TP's they really do make so much difference. 36psi all round is way to high. It would be beneficial if you could have ago in an M135i shod with PSS's, maybe worth ringing round a few dealers, to see if they can oblige you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 But this is Tony your talking about. He struggled to get a sub 10 sec 0-60 on the city airport racetrack in his S3 :D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Never really understood this debate on tyre pressures. Go with the manufacturer's set up first. They're designed to be what suits the car and tyres best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Go with the manufacturer's set up first. They're designed to be what suits the car and tyres best. No they're not. They're to optimise a number of factors, including what suits the car, tyres and driver, but also a number of other factors such as fuel economy, noise, tyre life and so on. They're just one compromise, not necessarily the compromise you prefer. That said, all my road cars run at the manufacturer's recommended pressures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Fair point. But then that compromise generally suits most people's actual needs, as opposed to their perceived needs. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 If you're taking your car on track, tyre pressures are critical for getting a consistently handling car, and, if you're doing it properly, you'll end up adjusting your pressures in different ways for different tracks, based on taking tyre temps across each tyre - it's called Tyre Pyro and it's a very simple concept, but very effective. Ain't quite the same for road cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Daz, I was bedding the engine in at the time. Cue a retort from Mac in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Tony if you think the car is a tad lively. You should try it on the OEM winter set up. A 205 section winter tyre on the rear made for interesting driving characteristics. I used to get home from any drive with a huge grin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Tony if you think the car is a tad lively. You should try it on the OEM winter set up. A 205 section winter tyre on the rear made for interesting driving characteristics. I used to get home from any drive with a huge grin. Just think what it would have been like driving it in winter conditions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_b Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I will try and reduce or play around with the tyre pressures and see what happens Patently, how can they setup the car for my needs? Where would I take it to, to get this done? I don't push the car hard and I've vowed it's never going in Sport+ mode. Still, in the modes I drive. I'm sooooo careful. In actual fact. I only mostly drive in the docile Eco-Pro mode. That's what I'm comfortable with. Tony, how dare you consider selling after the buying process we went through My 2p's worth, get yourself booked on a driving course day. I think you have become accustomed to the reassurance of 4wd/haldex of the last 3 cars you've had and the mini M is making you 'feel' uncomfortable, whereas its very unlikely the car would have you going sideways into a hedge, unless you were being very silly in sport+ mode on a wet day. Most BMW's have a fair amount of tolerance before they let go and a lot of the time it can be mind over matter. IIRC, I'm sure Eco-mode provides softer suspension setting whereas the sport modes firm things up, so maybe worth a play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Max, I've done the driving course day before, albeit a while back. I do think you have a point though about being comfortable and accustomed to the 4WD system. I only seem to drive her a few miles on weekends these days so will see how it fares this coming one as I have quite a lot of miles to do. No, I haven't been silly in the wet in sport mode. I did try once though and noticed it doesn't take much for it to start slipping all over the place. Scary I tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi Tony, I am a little confused as to why you brought the M135i, as going by your posts its definitely not the car for you.. Chris.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I need to do one of this driving day thingies too Tony if you fancy pairing up ? Sometimes I get the C63 and feel like I'm stuck to the road no matter what, other days I feel I have to to concentrate more* * and just to clarify, not when reversing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 CJ, Don't get me wrong. I'm not moaning here. Its not that it isn't the car for me. It's just the revelation that this is quite a rapid car and takes me outside my comfort zone of feeling confident about whatever it can chuck at me. As said above, I've mostly always driven 4WD cars which I now know have made me too comfortable and lazy. Also, I'm not the type who goes around hooning it at every opportunity. I like rapid cars but have a tolerance level of zilch when it appears to get so bum squeakingly quick so suddenly. Maybe I should just buy a Micra as I sound like an old man. Anyone know any nice knitting clubs in Essex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm not moaning here Whatever, Victor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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