Soulboy Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 The payday is the problem. £1m is a lot of money. But you could get seriously hurt, or worse. I could see in the Swiss eyes begore the start that he had no intention of making a fight of it. Lose as realistically as possible was his gameplan. Then pick up your cheque. Can't blame him. It's why I prefer the Amateurs....only the judges are corrupt there. Mainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Here is a question, would you go in the ring against Haye for a payday of £1m? You would probably take a hit and that would be that, KO, but would you do it?No, not a chance, anyone who isn't a trained boxer would have to be suicidal, my life is worth more than a million.If I was a professionally trained boxer? Probably would, you've got know how to, and be conditioned to take a punch as well as throw them. Edited May 21, 2016 by Tipex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Haye for £1m? Not a chance. Your family would be the only people to enjoy it after you'd gone. Professional boxers hit hard. Professional heavyweight boxers hit very hard. David Haye hits harder than most heavyweights. I'll pass, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I agree that last night didn't do anyone much good. It was always going to end like that and I still think AJ's camp need to steer well clear of him for a long time yet. He looks more motivated and hard hitting than ever. I can't wait to see him KO Shannon Briggs. It'll still mean nothing but he's going to be avoided like the plague by everyone else. Fury won't fight him. AJ should avoid him. WK would fight him again if he beats Fury. The latter is the only chance I see for him - but I would expect him to batter WK if they do meet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) The absolute disgrace of the heavyweight division continues to roll on. The money men are just like puppet masters behind the scenes pulling the strings. Simple fact is Haye, even with his layoff was still ranked pretty high in some of the the feds/organisations and could be fighting far better opponents and the AJ fight could have happened already. AJ v Haye on box office would have made everyone a good chunk of money, with plenty of fight fans buying the PPV. Drag things out longer, get Haye to fight a few absolute bums, appear on free to air TVs and go on every Tv and radio program to ramp up PR. Suddenly Haye is back in the nations minds, not just fight fans but the nation as a whole. Now that PPV fight with AJ goes from making everyone a good chunk of money to making them massive amounts. The potential PPV sales keep multiplying with every bum that takes a dive from a Haye jab, punters continue to lap it up. What should be happening is the opposite, people should start to wise up and tune off. Why would anyone buy a ticket to watch Haye and his current level of opposition ? The commentators hamming 44 year old Briggs up to be some god like 40 year old was sickening. He is shite, absolute dog crap but saying that won't promote the next Haye fight which in turn will promote the Haye v AJ fight. The cogs are in motion and the quality of fight is the last thing on the minds of the promoters. Edited May 22, 2016 by billy2shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I don't know why you're so against Haye? Who else is he going to fight as part of a comeback after 2+ years out of the ring? This is what happens. Briggs will be next and then we'll see. I really don't see that he has any alternative when others don't want to fight him. I agree on the hyping of Briggs though. That is frankly mystifying to me. I still don't agree that Haye v AJ is the fight after that. I honestly don't see Hearn wanting that. I wouldn't if I was him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 That wasn't really aimed at Haye although you are right, I don't rate him as highly as some. Mir was more a pop at the heavyweight gravy train. It may be my memory but Lewis,Tyson, Bruno, Holyfield etc didn't have 1 tough fight every 2 years sandwiched by bouts against guys they DO NOT throw anything back and that are looking to go down at the first opportunity. The commentator even said as much last night 'the cobra is looking for a place to fall down' lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sorry but after my recent experience with Sky there wont be anymore PPV in my house I wouldn't give the thieving cnuts another nickel of my money and I advise everyone else on here to do the same I will at some point post up what happened and how Sky have responded to date, including posting up their actual responses It will be useful to a lot of people out there who at some point in the future may have to deal with them, if and when they rob your account by either overcharging you or setting up bogus accounts using your bank account details and taking money out of your bank I would seriously advise anyone out there who currently have a sky account to dump it and go for netflix combined with freeview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Here is a question, would you go in the ring against Haye for a payday of £1m? You would probably take a hit and that would be that, KO, but would you do it? For a million quid, absolutely My best mates brother was a sparring partner for Gary Mason Frank Bruno & Lennox Lewis, he always says that Mason banged harder than either Bruno or Lewis, which surprised me, and I have done more than a few rounds with him I Got smashed up doing full contact for years at 100Kg for the fun of it, so for a Million quid you betcha, well 20 years back anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Bellew calls out Haye Personally I would love to see that fight, should last all of about two rounds tops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Never going to happen. Bellew did well this week but to step in a ring with Haye (who has no need to fight him) would be madness. Anyway, big news today - professional boxers are to be allowed to compete at Rio 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 And the BBC inexplicably chose to report that news with a pic of Tyson Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is Bellow saying he would move up to heavyweight to fight Haye?? If that's the case he'll be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is Bellow saying he would move up to heavyweight to fight Haye?? If that's the case he'll be killed. No, he wants it at Cruiserweight - against a guy who was the undisputed and unified Cruiserweight world champion. Ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yes, but he was trained by Rocky Balboa! The lad's in dreamland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 No, he fought Creed. Balboa trained Creed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Doh! Only watched it last week too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 For those in to UFC, the man mountain the was Kimbo Slice passed away today from apparent heart failure . 42 years old! RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Blimey. That's a shocker. I don't follow it, but am still aware of a very few names, of which he is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Anyway, big news today - professional boxers are to be allowed to compete at Rio 2016. I was dismayed when I read this and really wondered what planet the IOC is on. Olympic Gold is actully a proper aspiration for Amateur boxing; a sport in its own right and a springboard for young fighter. And then they screw it up. Same with adding stupid sports like Tennis etc etc to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 That's the problem. Boxing was always going to be allowed in because Basketball, Tennis and golf are there already. Boxing was slightly different because of the fear that a top quality pro could do some serious damage to a youthful opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 But that's my point - Boxing has already been there for generations so there was no need to allow thr Pros in and ruin all the aspirations of amateurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 It's bigger than boxing though. As soon as the Olympics allowed professionals to compete it changed everything. The line was blurred anyway as even those competing in Athletics, swimming etc should be considered pros these days as none of them work in Asda during the week. So the question was not should pro boxers be allowed, it was more like , why shouldn't they. You can argue that amateur and pro boxing are different sports and yes they do have separate governing bodies (think I'm right) but that argument is a little weak b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) The whole governance is 'complex' to say the least. Ultimately at the top it's AIBA (think FIFA!!), but they went from amateur only into salaried when they launched the World Series. The lines have been blurred from then on, and now they have pro governance too. To give you an example of the complexities even at local club level. You have people come to train at the gym. Lots want to fight competitively. They have a choice of getting registered with the ABA (carded) and waiting for a match at a sanctioned event or not bothering and doing white-collar boxing, where and when they choose. As a coach, you can either do the ABA courses, or get qualified outside the ABA. And when your fighters compete, there can be no crossover even for the coach running the corner. So an ABA qualified trainer cannot be in the corner at a white collar event and vice versa. So you need to have both ABA and non ABA coaches at most gyms to facilitate your gym members. Our gym has 6 fighters doing a white collar next Friday, and it's got to be non-ABA coaches doing the corner, even though the ABA coaches may have been training them all along. This is ignoring the guys with a pro trainers license from BBBoC, which is a different kettle of fish altogether! Regard the Olympics. Personally, it's a stupid decision.......but inevitable after they launched The World Series Personally, I can see some pros getting spanked by the Amateurs. A lot of the amateurs don't want to go pro and train year in year out for 3 to 5 rounds. They are fast and very skillfull in that format. Edited June 9, 2016 by Soulboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just looking into this on Google and the WBC has said they might ban any top 15 rated fighter for 2 years if they fight at the Rio Olympics. So it seems as AIBA spreads it's wings into pro boxing, the sanctioning bodies are protecting themselves. It's all about the money as usual. I just wish the AIBA had stuck to amateur / Olympic boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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