CarMad Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Weather Compensation on its own can reduce bills by 3-4% not massive but welcome none the less. Smart start again can help some who might default set a start point at 5am meaning the house is getting re-warmed several times before you even step out of bed. I like that it will be warm when I need it to be and not before and I don't need to think about it. Being able to quickly edit when things do or don't happen has been really helpful. I even have a setting for when the grand parents are round looking after the kids as they like / need it warmer than we do so its set warm on those days and times only. Honeywell systems have similar advantages but for our lifestyle and current needs the Valliant vSmart gives in some ways more advantage for us. A colleague who has just carried out a big cellar conversion went for the full honeywell system and a new boiler and he loves it, it can even detect if there is a sudden temp drop in a room like a window or door is open and then switch that rad off to help save you a little. I won't be going back anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Weather Compensation on its own can reduce bills by 3-4% not massive but welcome none the less. Smart start again can help some who might default set a start point at 5am meaning the house is getting re-warmed several times before you even step out of bed. I like that it will be warm when I need it to be and not before and I don't need to think about it. Being able to quickly edit when things do or don't happen has been really helpful. I even have a setting for when the grand parents are round looking after the kids as they like / need it warmer than we do so its set warm on those days and times only. Honeywell systems have similar advantages but for our lifestyle and current needs the Valliant vSmart gives in some ways more advantage for us. A colleague who has just carried out a big cellar conversion went for the full honeywell system and a new boiler and he loves it, it can even detect if there is a sudden temp drop in a room like a window or door is open and then switch that rad off to help save you a little. I won't be going back anytime soon. What does it base weather compensation on? I presume it is outside temperature or forecast based? If it is the former then it must need an outside sensor? If it is the latter - it'll never be correct in this country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Some use a physical temperature gauge outside, others use a local weather station. Its more if it thinks its 14degs and it doesn't need to work that hard, vs its -15 and will need to do more to keep the house warm. The advantages aren't huge but they are there. Its been in place for commercial property for years and its more migrating to homes than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 23 radiators! Top of the current leaderboard! Some of them even work, like, heat and stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 The engineer attended on Tuesday to fit the Nest. Was a pretty straight forward job, now the Nest is learning our heating habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I had a fiddle with both nest and hive in Maplins the other day, bloody hell the Hive stat is huge! Seems well made but I was disappointed with the display, it's not very clear, the Nest is still my personal choice, feels like a very good quality product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 The Nest is definitely of a high quality build, pretty much like a Apple device. The new Gen 3 Nest device has a higher resolution screen then previous versions, so very nice on the eye. Its early days but so far I am liking the gadget factor of the device, the ability to turn on the heating before I get home etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 If anyone was thinking about buying a Nest system - wait. They've announced the new version is available for pre-order today and arrives in shops in January. Nest Generation III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 You don't need to pre order, it's available now for fitment within 5 days of ordering. The 3rd gen controls hot water too as well as having a slimmer profile, larger, higher resolution display. I'd be a bit p1ssed if i'd only just bought a second gen, fortunately we held off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I was only saying what they've announced on Facebook in respect of pre-ordering. It would seem it doesn't hit the high street until January but that you can indeed order online via Nest now for earlier delivery. I too would be rather annoyed if I'd just invested in a second generation model. I'm still not going to opt for one, but felt it might be of interest to those who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I only know because I ordered one a few days ago, won't be around for it to be fitted within the 5 days as we have a lot on at the moment, but it's been provisionally booked in for a couple of weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I had a rant at Nest as I specifically asked about the Gen 3 prior to ordering my Gen 2. In the end I have asked for a refund for my Gen 2! Gen 3 ordered and should be with me early December. As long as you bought your Gen 2 within the last 30 days then you can use the 30-day money back guarantee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I had a rant at Nest as I specifically asked about the Gen 3 prior to ordering my Gen 2. In the end I have asked for a refund for my Gen 2! Gen 3 ordered and should be with me early December. As long as you bought your Gen 2 within the last 30 days then you can use the 30-day money back guarantee That is good customer service. I took delivery of my Macbook Pro on the day they released the new models! Guess what Apple said? Nothing. Wouldn't change it. That was via Apple business too. Utterly hopeless and lacking in any real customer care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 That is good customer service. I took delivery of my Macbook Pro on the day they released the new models! Guess what Apple said? Nothing. Wouldn't change it. That was via Apple business too. Utterly hopeless and lacking in any real customer care. That is good of Hive, and what a consumer should expect. I would have thought Apple though would have been a lot better though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 That is good of Hive, and what a consumer should expect. I would have thought Apple though would have been a lot better though. I find them hot and cold. On this one, they were truly awful. I seem to recall they made it worse with some kind of pathetic offer of £25 or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 If anyone wants one but hasn't taken the plunge yet - £70 off Hive on Black friday at Amazon. £70 off Hive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Second Generation Nest now down to £149 on Amazon Prime. Edited November 29, 2015 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Also available from Screwfix at the same price currently http://www.screwfix.com/p/nest-t200377-learning-programmable-room-thermostat/5763c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Ooops. Anyone else been hit by this? Nest issues apology after thermostat bug stops devices working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bells0 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Doh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Ooops. Anyone else been hit by this? Nest issues apology after thermostat bug stops devices working Not yet.... I will keep my eye on our 3rd Gen Nest though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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