Daz Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Did someone mention Wheely Bin cameras? Pictures from http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Excellent! Does anybody know where I could get the equipment necessary to measure the speed of cars that go past my house? Not for any reason other than a bit of fun because I like my gadgets! I don't want to take photos or flash lights, just wondering what would be the smallest amount of electronics required to (fairly) accurately measure speed. I wonder if one of those digital tape measures from b&q linked to a laptop would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 speed cameras and all this secret camera stuff really feck me off. most accidents are not caused by excessive speed. those statistics have been made public many times. i just got fecking caught at a roadworks doing 51 in a 40 zone. no workmen anywhere, perfectly safe. its a main wide dual carriageway and a mobile fecking van must have been camouflaged and got me. so its 60 quid to the tossers who run flintshires speed traps. are the roads safer as a result? bollox. and i'm seriously considering moving just to avoid the crap of constant roadworks, low speed limits that cost me time and money and basically a government/council structure thats removing all pleasure of driving from this country and taxing us a thousand times over and wasting all the fecking money. its all common sense. speeding past a school is stupid. but i havent actually seen a camera outside a school? drink driving is stupid. but no cameras to prevent that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Well said. I agree - these "temporary" speed limits during road works are just pathetic. I can understand why they are there to protect the workers, but I can't remember the last time i went through roadworks and actually saw a workman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Try standing in the roadworks when a car goes past breaking the limit at 70 only a few feet away, its not nice. Then think about what would happen if something happens that means that a car has to go into the coned area to avoid another car straight into the path of the workers or any of the equipment. People who don't slow down for roadworks are as bad as those that speed past schools IMO. They are there to work to help fix the road or probably make it better, not risk life and limb because we can't slow down for a few minutes during our journeys. If SPECS cameras are the only way to keep the speeds down at roadworks then I hope they put them on every one. P.S. Sorry to vent my spleen, but my Dad has had the unhappy experience of watching the results of this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 [ QUOTE ] People who don't slow down for roadworks are as bad as those that speed past schools [/ QUOTE ] i'm sorry but that generalisation is just bollox!!!! i clearly said NO WORKMEN ANYWHERE! its the A55 at queensferry. go there!! take a look... its a classic example of a council feck up. its limited to 40mph but the road is so wide 140mph would still be fine. the workmen dont work there much due to cash shortages so its taking a year longer than it should and its the main road into flintshire/north wales. theyre making a lovely 6 lane carriageway to feed into a 2 lane carriageway...doh...like that'll help you (Council) nitwits!!! i have two young daughters. i dont speed past schools or speed in any situation where i calculate there may be dangers ahead.... i have eyes, awareness and common sense. speed cameras have become a modern equivalent of the boy that cried wolf...there are so many in positions that are clearly just CASH EXTRACTION LOCATIONS, that if ever one was placed in an "ACCIDENT BLACKSPOT" or "ACTIVE WORK AREA" that no one would believe it for one second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I as much as anyone don't want cameras everywhere and like to press on given the chance and am in total agreement about how poor some of the speed limits are and where the cameras are placed. But the fact is far too many people speed through roadworks and give the people who work in them little or no thought whatsoever. A lot of people assume people aren't working there even when they are, they could be just around the corner. I understand that their might be a place that roadworks have been left for long periods without use and there seems that their is no point to slow down, but the vast majority aren't like that and for the most part they really are SAFETY cameras not money raisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 [ QUOTE ] their might be a place that roadworks have been left for long periods without use and there seems that their is no point to slow down, but the vast majority aren't like that [/ QUOTE ] I would say 80% of the roadworks I drive past have nobody visibly working on them. Most of them don't have staff working in shifts so for the 8 hours or whatever that they are on shift there might be a few people standing round having a fag, but for the other 16 hours of the day they keep the speed restriction in place when nobody will even be on site. I could understand if the lanes were narrowed, but often it's just one lane closed so you still have two perfectly good wide lanes (just like a dual carriageway) so why not keep it as a 70? Because of this, (and it's the vast majority that ARE like that, not the other way round in my experience), people see roadworks/speed restrictions and don't slow down because chances are it will be a case of them just being too lazy to remove the speed signs at the end of their shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjohns Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Just to get back on topic laser detection is possible although, as explained above it is not an exact science. Obviously, the further you are away from the police with the laser gun the more chance you have of picking up scatter from the laser (i.e. gun shake, wet roads, position of camera/gun, etc). I have a normal Bel Euro 550 and have picked up laser warnings a few times in the past and this is installed in my windscreen. Yes, if you are fairly close to the speed checking device and they are aiming at you then you are probably screwed although they will sometimes take two readings so always slow down on laser detection. 9 times out of 10 you will be caught though. Laser guns will work in both directions although police tend to only use them on cars coming towards them rather than away. The stationary speed vans certainly concentrate on vehicles coming towards them so I wouldn't worry to much about going the other way....but if you see one and don't slow down, you deserve to get the points no matter which direction you are travelling . With regards to this chap travelling up and down past the waggon, please note they do not shoot constantly. If they see a car they think is speeding, then they will aim at that but if they see no vehicles speeding, they will not bother to check them all. Re Laser Jammers. Please note that the police are now cracking down on these and where an automated or manned laser site brings back an error when then try and check the speed of a vehicle, the registration will be recorded and a flag will be put on you on the PNC. If you trigger another speed detecting device and they fail to register a speed for a second time, expect a visit from the police as they will confiscate your car and check for such a device. If found you will be prosecuted for obstruction. This could end up giving you a little more than 3pts....you have been warned. Check out http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/ for full facts on these recent court cases. http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/faqlaserdet.htm http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/jamlaw.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Still a little dubious about whether the case actually exists or not. It was discussed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjohns Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 [ QUOTE ] As far as i'm concerned they have no basis to confiscate the unit, its not illegal to own the unit, and in this country its NOT illegal to jam a laser signal! [/ QUOTE ] I have to disagree with you on this one. Whilst it is not illegal to own a laser jammer (/garage door opener), police are prosecuting drivers who use them to evade speeding tickets. They are being charged with perverting the course of justice....apparently. Police are now re-configuring all auto registration laser speed check devices to record the numberplates of all cars where a speed check returns an error code (i.e. is potentially being jammed). This gets stored on the national DB and if you car triggers another error at a later date, then details are flagged up and police will investigate and potentially impound your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Are able to point to a specific case where this has happend? The only case I am aware of was dropped before getting to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F90X Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 At the risk of returning to topic. A friend of mine bought the S4 and two days later got busted by a hand held laser when his 'Laser detector' didn't. He took it back and got a complete refund. He has now given up on performance cars for the forseable future and drives a Honda Jazz. He used to have Intagrale's, 4motion Golf's, BMW's etc etc. I have the S3 and have never bothered with the laser side of it, prefering to rely on the GPS for fixed sites and good old eyesite and intuition for the marauding mobiles as they have done me well for the last 23 years. I'll get done over the weekend now, you see if I don't. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 TBH Steve my ethos is pretty much the same. Even though my RAII has the laser facility on it I've never had it warn me of anything and ultimately I think it's too late by the time it does anyway! The fact that it warns me of fixed or possible mobile camera sites does for me. I'm sure they're going to ban the laser detection devices anyway aren't 'they'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F90X Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Yes, apparently the laser detection will be outlawed but the GPS detection stays. We can keep the GPS for fixed speed camera sites as it is all part of the 'freedom of imformation' bill or some such legislation. Thankfully we don't have the French laws that enable the rozzers to confiscate any type of detector AND sting you £400 (yes Pounds sterling, not Francs) in fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooret Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Got to agree with the posts above. We have 2 S4s and neither has ever given a laser detection. We all have to appreciate that whether or not we agree with the laws of the land, if we disregard them and get caught we will have to accept the sanctions applied by the courts. I use my S4 as a reminder, nothing more. Once I drove past a camera that I knew was there at 85.......fortunately got away with it. If you are alert as you should be whilst in control of a 1 - 2 tonne lump of metal at speed and you are driving within your limits and the cars limits and the roads limits and the weather conditions limits (ie quick BUT SAFE!)then unless a camera is hidden you should not be taken by surprise. I like others on here cover in excess of 40k miles per year and have a "press on" style of driving. Not being holier than thou, or wishing to tempt fate, but in my driving career the only ticket I have received was for a parking offence. Don't take the piss and drive like fcuk wits, have fun and be courteous and safe! (Come on it is Sunday and everyone likes a good sermon!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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