AudiPartner Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Got a bit of a semi on when I was watching it on TG last night, and got thinking about a little road trip. Been reading up on the web and its a bit scary. Who's been? Were you scared? Have you been back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drillslinger Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 ScoTTy's been round a fair few times Me.... been there 3 times, driven it..... none Insurance is a bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoo Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Thinking about it May have a go next year around June time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURTON Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Me and a friend are going April time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerbera Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Thinking about it May have a go next year around June time! [/ QUOTE ] Oh really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 My first visit was a couple of weeks ago and managed (in the time available)3 laps. Believe me, that circuit demands respect, forget going out there all gung-ho, you will come off worse, like any unfamilier track, take your time (like 2 years) and you should be almost there. Unforgetable, great to drive and great to watch others at many vantage spots whilst munching on a bratwurst. I'm going back next year without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 [ QUOTE ] ScoTTy's been round a fair few times Me.... been there 3 times, driven it..... none Insurance is a bitch [/ QUOTE ] I've done about 60.1 laps. Let's leave the 0.1 lap out of it and move on! I've had approx 60 joyous laps at the place. JC got one thing right and that it once you've been you have to go back. My first trip was to tick it off as a thing you have to do. I now keep going back even after my ... ahem off road excursion! I'm sure Fatcat thought I was talking it up before he went and basically hyping it but once you've driven it you'll understand. It's an incredible challenge. The track seems designed to catch you out. Some of it flows and some of it really doesn't. Some bits at first glance look the same as other bits but the other side of them couldn't be more different. After 20 laps I thought I knew it. Then after 40 I thought I knew it. Now 60 laps in and I'm confident I now know it. This doesn't mean I know all the best lines and every bump but I can at least know all the direction changes, cambers, crests, etc, etc. "They" reckon you need 100 to know it full and then over a 1000 before you really know it. Sabine says she's done something like 15,000 laps. I guess she knows it quite well by now! p.s. I'll be there in 2005 p.p.s. It's a public toll road so normal car insurnance is normally sufficient. You should check though although asking sometimes means they say no whereas if you don't ask you're covered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsheldon Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I've been round in 1995 on the way back from Italy when I did the 'Italian Job' here with a friend, so we were in a Mini. Now I know thats sounds boring, but this car was built from a new body shell, no compromises at all, 1380 engine, Arden 8 port head, straight cut gears, about £20ks worths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Believe me, that circuit demands respect, forget going out there all gung-ho, you will come off worse, [/ QUOTE ] Above is prolly a man thing, but FC and Scotty kid-you-not! It was said already that a few bits look the same as others, this is utter bollox, loads of it looks the same. As loads of it is blind crests, crest where visibilty may be 100+ feet. The speeds through these sections can be well over the ton. Dont be apllying none of the "Advanced Driving" mallarky of reading the trees line over the next crest, the is what was mentioned about the lay meant to catch you out (Adenour forst anyone ). then to compound things, some parts over the circuit you can make an error, you think you have saved it and got back on line only to find the black-art that is physics creating havoc and hurling you towards the armco. [ QUOTE ] Is it scary [/ QUOTE ]You-can-bet-your-sweet-bippy its scary! Thats part of what makes it draw you back. The other is unfinished business! Who here on TSN has finished their business with The Ring? You lost right? I just wish I had the bottle and the ability to really take on The Ring. Until then, I'll pop over every few years for a fix! What would you drive/ride around there in/on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 The gf's dad has a fair amount of experience - he races every year at the Nurburgring 24 hour - I doubt I could memorise the track - I certainly can't imagine trying to race round it in the dark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 is there a decent map of the ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspencex Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 There is a map on this site LINK ...along with other useful information.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritey Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I've been round in 1995 on the way back from Italy when I did the 'Italian Job' here with a friend, so we were in a Mini. Now I know thats sounds boring, but this car was built from a new body shell, no compromises at all, 1380 engine, Arden 8 port head, straight cut gears, about £20ks worths. [/ QUOTE ] What happend to it .... I'm a but of a mini fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiPartner Posted November 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] What would you drive/ride around there in/on? [/ QUOTE ] E30 M3, no airbags- eek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] There is a map on this site LINK ...along with other useful information.. [/ QUOTE ] cheers spence, really good site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 wow, i just read through the site that xspence posted the link too. it looks like fantastic fun!! never knew it was a public toll road, or soo long. i guess hiring a car is the practical option for me, dont think the cab would enjoy the constant twisties at speed. might give it a whirl some time next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspencex Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What would you drive/ride around there in/on? [/ QUOTE ] E30 M3, no airbags- eek! [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to say a Porsche 993 RS but i'll settle for a 968 CS...but not in yellow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I've often thought about going and having a couple of geriatric-slow laps. If it had been open when I came through in the W12, I would have been really tempted to do it then. I kind of wish I'd taken the RS 6, but I always bottled out. My cousin has been several times, he runs a business hand-rebuilding premium cars that would be write-offs going by main dealer pricing, renewing and renovating older performance cars etc. I think last time he went was in a car he'd rebuilt (Supra Turbo I think) for a bit of shakedown testing before he sold it off. Something like that anyway, all a bit hairy for my liking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspencex Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I get the impression people think once you go on track there is the need to go round the track like your Senna...but you can cruise round till you feel confident..increasing your speed...again only if your confident. Maybe there is a section you like..attack that and relax for the rest the circuit and enjoy it...I don't think there is the need to risk all and go for that 'time'. Leave that for people that can afford regular damage to they're car and the obvious danger of physical harm to themselves eeek!! Hell there are buses going round..people stop and take photos... I think its only a daunting as you make it. Although I should point out I have never been I have read so many reports. I hope to go next year but I won't be driving.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyDub Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Been browsing the site all day now. I noticed this and though, how the hell did JC get away with filming himself round the ring (no pun's please) on Top Gear this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Prolly got permission from Nurburgring GmbH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossG Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I hope to go next year but I won't be driving.. [/ QUOTE ] You think... No way are we paying extra to insure you on the car for you to only drive the boring stuff. Unless you are scared Only kidding... looks like the place won't be open anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] i guess hiring a car is the practical option for me, dont think the cab would enjoy the constant twisties at speed. [/ QUOTE ] You prolly see in the small print that you're not covered to take the hire car there or Hokenhiem(?), it actually names these circuits. I get cheap flights from Stanstead to Hahn with Ryanair and pick up a hirecar at the Airport and use them on The Ring, but have an off and could be if you cant find some one with a trailer to dump the wreckage elsewhere that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 [ QUOTE ] There is a map on this site LINK ...along with other useful information.. [/ QUOTE ] Last time I spoke with Ben, he was spending vast amounts of time at the Ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 The Norschleiffe is an ABSOLUTE MUST for any car enthusiast. It may not seem that way until you go, but JC had it spot on it's addictive. It is without doubt some of the best 13miles of tarmac on the planet. Re scary, it is, and unfortunately there are a lot of idiots lapping the ring (I came round over a blind crest at 110mph to find a coachful of tourists on the other side). My view is that if you regard the 'ring as a public road without speed limits and no oncoming traffic, but exercise caution on the blind bits and try to avoid the temptation of the 120mph bits (it's bloody hard though) then you won't go too far wrong. Regard it less of a racetrack with excellent marshalling and more of a fast cross country blast and it's hugely enjoyable. Sadly, the temptation to perfect lines (as in any race track) is far to great, and I think everyone who is enthusiatic will push the limits and put the risk up. I'm already planning next years trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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