Emma23 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Hi! I have a VW Golf GTI - 1996 2.0 litre 8v. (Milage 75000) For a few months now i've been having problems with my car. Some mornings it won't start properly - sometimes taking upto 10 minutes to get it started. Then a couple of days ago - it stalled (Appx 5 miles into my journey - car was warmed up)when i approached a roundabout. I started it back up & it then decided to lose revs when i was driving (Was in 3rd gear the time) & kept dropping revs, then going back upto normal, then dropping etc.(making the car seem like it was kangarooing) It did it for a few minutes, then was fine for the rest of the journey. It has been into the garage loads of times! It was plugged into the computer & bought up code 00515 Hall sensor - even though the distributor had been changed. The garage changed it again - but it kept doing it. It went into the garage on Saturday & had a ECU fitted & an ECU relay. It was fine until yesterday on the way home when it stalled again & started jerking (as i call it!) Can anyone offer assistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmark Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Change the coil...[borrow one if poss]....had this issue on a couple of 16v gti's......the coil works some times and not others....tends to be missed in the fault codes etc... good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Welcome to Tyresmoke. There are a few knowledgable blokes here, but not around all the time to might need to be a little patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmark Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 sorry...hi & welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Thanks! I'll give it a try.... Can it be done at home (By my dad for example? He does all my oil changes etc for me) Or does it have to go into a garage for the Coil to be changed? Any idea of the cost/where i can get one if that is the problem?? Thanks again Emma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmark Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dad can do it.. at a guess £40 - £50 .. I would go to local motor factors [cheaper] or Euro Parts / German & Sweedish if you have one near you. Then [as a last resort ]..VW cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Thanks alot for your help! Wish i'd thought of doing this sooner! I'll give it a try & let you know...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted April 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Thanks for the advice about the coil - it has been 2 months now & the car starts fine (Touch wood) However it is still doing the cutting out whilst driving! It does it about 5 miles into a journey. The revs drop right to 1000 then go back up 3000 and it keeps doing that repeatedly for a few minutes. Then doesn't do it for the rest of the journey. The oil light flickered today & last night when it did it. Can anyone give any suggestions??? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmark Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hi again, sounds like a sensor playing up as the temp rises ? Have you access to vag-com or some other diagnostic system which should give you a clue from the fault memory, which sensor is having a crisis every time the engine warms up cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit_s4 Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 I have been watching this thread with interest as I am going through the exact same problem. My 96 Golf GTi 8v manages to go about 3 miles then starts misfiring and cutting out. Usually starts eventually but really annoying. So far the following has been changed with either new or known good parts. Coil, Distributor, Rotor Arm & Cap, Fuel Pressure Relay, ECU Power Relay, Plugs, leads, Ignition Switch, all earths cleaned......and it still breaks down :-( This is really testing my patience now. The only other thing left is the engine speed sensor....but what a price! In my case, the jerking (as Emma puts it) is quite severe, and I'm sure its more electrical than fuel related, and the AA man agreed, even though he couldnt fix it. I gleaned some info from: http://ajmerphull.com/cars/vw/vw.html My problems are not fixed yet, but maybe it will help yours. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulkbear Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 This may sound silly but have u checked the brake servo vacuum pipe for splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzr Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Had a very similar problem to this myself on a Golf 1.6. The car would stall when pulling up at junctions, revs would drop too low and cut out. Turned out to be Lambda sensor in exhaust line. VW quoted nearly 90 quid for one. Got one elsewhere for about £25, plug didn't match but wires were coloured same so 4 quick snips and car has been great. The life of Lambda sensors (From what i read along the way) is (depending on type) 60k / 100k miles. So in this case could well be the cause. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit_s4 Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Its fixed! :-) Checked everything I could possibly think of, and in the end I went out and bought an Engine Crank Sensor (ouch!). £92 from GSF which is better than VW but still not cheap. Bit of a gamble but there really was nothing else left to do. Anyway a fiddly thing to fit, having to move the front engine mounting to get at the 5mm Allen headed bolt, but I was pleased to see that on removal of the old one, the wires appeared to be shorting out on entry to the sensor itself. This was later confirmed with a multimeter, running a continuity check at the plug end and wiggling the wires near the sensor. This test I could have done right at the start, but there you go. We learn! Two days on and the car seems to be running fine, which is a quite something compared to the way things had been going. Thanks guys for all your help and suggestions. I got there in the end, phew! Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Hi! I want to thank everyone for their help on this one, i changed the ignition coil in February, and it worked for the starting problem! It is still 'jerking', but i know that i need to change the crank shaft sensor for that (i think!) - I had no idea it was two things wrong, not just the one - causing all the problems! The car is a pain in the arse anyway, just Saturday my starter motor went, i got it back & started to drive it to work today, the oil light was flashing & beeping like hell at me! I pulled over & went back home, took my dads car. Any idea what that is?? Aside from checking the oil, which i will do - if it is OK, has anyone experienced this?? Thanks in advance - you are all a bunch of geniuses on this site!! Emma -x- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 If I remember correctly, the flashing and bleeping is low oil pressure rather than low oil level. I had this once on a Scirocco, and the oil pressure sensor was faulty. It'd run fine until I got to about 2500 revs then it'd scream at me. Shut off the engine and it'd reset. Changed the sensor, and all was well. Best check the oil level first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Thanks for the swift reply!! I will take it to a garage when i get home if oil level is fine - Just out of interest, will that show up on the computer thing that the garage plugs in? (Am i right in thinking it is a VAG COM??!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 I'm not sure how it'll show. It should show as a fault but whether it'll be specific or not, I don't know. Vag com is a cheap (but very good), windows based utility, and not quite the same as the VAG system the garages use. They do the same job though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 But this could be an independant garage using VAGCOM. Oil thing could be oil level is too high. Check the car on level ground, if there is too much or too little oil then that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Oh and Emma if you do get that sensor changed, make sure you keep your old one, because if it doesn't fix it then your old one is still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes49 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Thanks for the swift reply!! I will take it to a garage when i get home if oil level is fine - Just out of interest, will that show up on the computer thing that the garage plugs in? (Am i right in thinking it is a VAG COM??!) [/ QUOTE ] On a mk3 golf no computers look at oil sensors and nothing will show on the scan, Oil light means no oil going around your engine,this could be no oil is going round or a sensor problem, best thing is check your oil level, if thats ok then have a oil pressure guage put in to test the pressure, if that ok you have a electrical fault if not it inside the engine. But you should not drive the car with the oil light on, unless you have the pressure checked and it ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STNVW Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hi, My VW Golf Gti 2.0 8v has been doing this over the last few weeks too, and is currently sitting dormant in a vw garage with several "technicians" scratching thier heads...so far a new Dizzy and rota arm and coil have been done (like me) and still the problem persists, I believe that a Engine Crank Sensor is next on the "well we will try that mate" list and is being done today, so I will let you all know should this resolve the problem again. I only wish I had read these posts a couple of weeks ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes49 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 If it cutting out then try relay number 30 (i'm sure it 30) could be the fuel pump relay (thinking 112 for that number) or crank position sensor, It stupid to change the dizzy on a car with a crank sensor because the dizzy is just for No1 postion sensor to speed starting, but will still run if it not picking a signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma23 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hi all, Sorry not had time to reply to this, but it turns out when they fitted the new starter motor, they knocked a wire leading to the sensor (or something, so my dad plugged it back in & fingers crossed, has been fine!! Back to that jerking thingy that is still going on with my car... it started shortly after i had a 'new' crankshaft sensor fitted. Could that be the cause? And what does a crankshaft sensor actually do? Cheers in advance Em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes49 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Crankshaft postion sensor tells the ECU how fast the engine is spinning, Wouldn't have thought that would have caused the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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