simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Just read this report on a media site: Tokyo Motor Show Preview AUDI AND LAMBORGHINI JOIN FORCES TO CREATE ALL NEW S8 QUATTRO Audi S quattro Series flagship debuts at Tokyo with new 10-cylinder FSI engine developed with Lamborghini input Return of the ultimate Audi A8 begins with unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show (Oct 22 – Nov 6) Scheduled to open for UK order in April 2006 for first deliveries in June 2006 First ever 10-cylinder Audi model 5.2-litre V10 FSI petrol engine developed using Lamborghini Gallardo’s 5.0-litre unit as its technical basis, linked to six-speed tiptronic automatic transmission 450PS at 7,000rpm, 540Nm at 3,500rpm, 0-62mph in 5.1 seconds, electronically limited 155mph top speed, 20.3mpg Modified adaptive air suspension Sport with latest generation quattro drive incorporating 40/60 rear biased torque split All-up weight of 1,940kg, giving impressive power-to-weight ratio of 232PS per ton A spectacular fusion of German luxury saloon and Italian super car makes its debut on the Audi Stand at this month’s Tokyo Motor Show. The new Audi S8 quattro, featuring a 10-cylinder FSI petrol engine developed using the Lamborghini Gallardo’s acclaimed unit as its foundation, is scheduled to open for UK order in April 2006, with first deliveries expected in June 2006. Smaller, lighter and with fewer friction-generating components than a comparable 12-cylinder unit, the new 5.2-litre V10 petrol engine has a more performance-biased pedigree that perfectly suits the ultimate A8. Maximum power of 450PS is delivered at 7,000rpm, and peak torque of 540Nm at 3,500rpm, with up to 90 per cent of this total available from just 2,300rpm, enabling a 0-62mph time of 5.1 seconds and a top speed limited electronically to 155mph. Using the Gallardo’s 5.0-litre unit, developed by Lamborghini in conjunction with Audi, as its foundation, the 5.2-litre V10 incorporates bespoke features that tailor its much-loved character to meet luxury saloon requirements, without diluting it. These include Audi FSI direct petrol injection for optimum responsiveness and efficiency, and the addition of a balancing shaft for maximum engine refinement. Weighing in at a comparatively low 220kg, the new engine exhibits the same meticulous attention to lightweight construction as the body shell of the S8 quattro, which in line with all A8 models features all-aluminium panels mounted on an aluminium Audi Space Frame (ASF). The result is an overall weight of 1,940kg, and an impressive power-to-weight ratio of 232PS per ton. The first ever V10 from Audi is effectively harnessed by a chassis combining adaptive air suspension with the latest generation quattro permanent four-wheel-drive system, featuring a standard torque split of 40:60 (front / rear) that helps to optimise axle load distribution for even greater agility and steering precision. The air suspension is based on the Sport set-up offered throughout the A8 range, featuring firmer damping and a 20mm ride height reduction in each of its four modes. The system has been modified for the S8 quattro to suit its even more pronounced sporting bias, with revisions to the suspension mounts and to the shock absorbers within the air-spring bellows designed to maximise roll resistance. The speed dependent Servotronic power steering has also been further sharpened through revisions to the steering ratio giving a reduction in lock-to-lock turns. 20-inch S-design alloy wheels shod with 265/35 ZR 20 tyres distribute the power to the tarmac, and within these are massive 15-inch front and 13-inch rear disc brakes that keep the S8 quattro effectively reined in at all times. High performance ceramic brakes will also be available as an option, offering vastly improved temperature tolerance for the best possible resistance to brake fade and an operating life of up to 186,000 miles in everyday use – four times the lifespan of a steel disc. In addition to the 20-inch alloy wheels, V10 emblems on the wheel arches, aluminium-look door mirrors, a subtle integrated boot spoiler and four ellipsoidal tail pipes surrounded by a redesigned rear apron mark out the S8 quattro externally. Adaptive lighting technology is another distinguishing feature that only the W12 A8 models share as standard. The xenon plus head lamps incorporate additional static turning lights and dynamic cornering lights that respond to steering inputs to light the driver’s path perfectly through each corner. Inside, full leather upholstery with seat centre panels, side sections and head rests in contrasting colours, a three-spoke S quattro steering wheel with aluminium look gear shift paddles and facia inlays in either brushed aluminium or carbon fibre highlight this model’s special position in the A8 range. The S8 quattro is also equipped with the revised and now even more comprehensive standard specification from which all A8 models benefited earlier this year. This includes DVD-based satellite navigation, light and rain sensors, the Audi Advanced Key system (enabling keyless access and start-up) and voice control technology for vocal operation of radio, CD player, car telephone and navigation system. These features added to an already lengthy list that incorporates front and rear acoustic parking, cruise control, 14-way electric seat adjustment, electronic climate control, a 6 CD changer and the acclaimed Multi Media Interface system enabling intuitive control of many of the car’s functions. In Germany, the price of the new S8 quattro has been confirmed at 97,600 Euros, but UK pricing will be finalised nearer to the car’s 2006 launch. S8 to the power of 10 - The new Audi S8 quattro, featuring a 10-cylinder FSI petrol engine developed using the Lamborghini Gallardo’s acclaimed unit as its foundation, is to make its debut at this month’s Tokyo Motor Show. The return of the S quattro Series flagship to the UK is scheduled for June 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 [ QUOTE ] The return of the S quattro Series flagship to the UK is scheduled for June 2006. [/ QUOTE ] June? JUNE? JUNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 June Chris??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBM Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 That sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 It does indeed. I'm gonna see if i can get a loan for 97000 euros tomorrow and get one of the first. "What's the loan for sir??" -"well, Mr Barclays - it's for my Lambo engined Audi!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I would put some pics up but my computer is running sooooooooo slow tonight as i'm trying to download a drawing for work and it's taking bloody ages! better pester the news-stig for it - he uses the site that i go on too. I was quite surprised that he'd not posted this already actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Pictures on Germancarfans.com Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 That would be the car! Germancarfans is back on now then. Good stuff - got rid of the nasty hackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 What a car eh guys?? Very nice - and very fast! Looks good - but quite understated - for a Lamborghini!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 just got the email asking if I want one from the sales manager at my dealers, ironically I ordered my Le mans 2 months ago and it wont be delivered til Q2 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Is there any car you haven't ordered? That S8 does look the business. What sort of money are we talking for one of those then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I have always liked the S8, understated, but the bigger engined versions are monstrous. I think the new Gallardo derived engine should add a bit of extra grunt to help them keep up with equivalent luxury sporting offerings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 they haven't said yet, just wanted to know If Iwanted my name puting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Ohhh... I haven't done any work for the past half hour - I just can't stop looking at those pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] they haven't said yet, just wanted to know If Iwanted my name puting down. [/ QUOTE ] Do they take a deposit from you? I never pay deposits on anything, and my dealer won't take "orders" until it's on the system to get the right equipment codes etc. Bloody June though, how depressing is that. I'd like it to be available this year, then I can have a Le Mans in early 2007. Audi obviously have their heads screwed on right though; a June availability is about right to catch a load of W12 company car buyers with two year old cars they want to trade in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgera Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 That's a cool motor, look at the figures vs the M5 (which won best-est engine of the year or something) S8 450PS vs 400 or 500 for the M5, torque is 540Nm at 3500rpm (with 90% or that - 485Nm - from just 2300 rpm) vs 520 Nm at 6100 rpm. Or in other words for 90% of the time the Audi V10 is the better bet? Though an S8 is about 100Kg heavier than an M6, so maybe the S6 version with this motor would be a serious competitor for the M5 without resorting to the RS6? Important to see that Audi feel that ceramic brakes are an important option whereas BMW feel that simple twin pot calipers and steel disks are OK for their ultimate motor. (Anyone else notice VBH saying the brake had almost gone after a few laps on 5th Gear this week?). Besides, let face it an S8 in black running on those 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Where's Sven when we need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] That's a cool motor [/ QUOTE ] It's only got the same horsepower and slightly less torque than the existing W12 engine. Not stellar, for sure. That means it will be no faster than a short W12 (the L uses the standard gearing, short W12 and S8 have a lower final drive ratio), but should handle better due to the revised suspension and steering. Ceramic brakes will be an option on W12s as well, they're a great idea as mine's eaten the front discs in under 24k miles because of how aggressive the pads are, so a set of ceramics might last nearer 60k or 70k miles even with enthusiastic use, but I bet they eat pads like there's no tomorrow. If Audi will cover it with the £500 service and maintenance package, that will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] an S8 in black running on those 20's [/ QUOTE ] I do like the silver and grey pictures, but I agree, black would look rather awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 chris I only put the money down when i spec them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 That's all right then! There's enough dealers out there that will try and take deposits on vapour. I have an understanding with my dealer, I don't ever pay deposits, I do expect a discount on everything, and I do expect freebies from the merchandising cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] That's all right then! There's enough dealers out there that will try and take deposits on vapour. I have an understanding with my dealer, I don't ever pay deposits, I do expect a discount on everything, and I do expect freebies from the merchandising cupboard. [/ QUOTE ] Well Chris_B, the amount you have spent with them, should get you the whole cupbaord (with discount)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 My mate ordered an Aston Martin when he was 18 speaking of pre-ordering cars. He just tried to see how far he could get one day with them at college and he got a call about a week later asking if their sales guy could come and see him. He then had to tell them that his high-profile software company 'AstonCom' (yes - believe it!!), had gone bump and he had foxtrot all to spend on a car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 lovely looking car although this sharing of components just cheapens brands like Lamborghini IMHO how long before we see the Murcielago lump in the new Skoda Superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] although this sharing of components just cheapens brands like Lamborghini IMHO [/ QUOTE ] Well, it wouldn't have been very fair to let Audi design the Gallardo engine and not be able to tweak it for their own use now, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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