runflat Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I have read that Pinnacle Souveran gives an awesome finish on black cars. Has anyone had any experience of this or can anyone suggest other waxes that are particularly good on black. For information I currently use NXT Tech wax on non-metallic black clearcoat. Thanks for any responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Brazo has a black Toyota and it looks stunning, can't remember what he uses though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBM Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Yes - last weekend - thanks to djbs4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Think you could do with a bit of Pathclear UBM.................. BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGWT Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Paint Colour Product Red / Yello Pinnacle Souverän or Natty’s Blue Black CC *Klasse SG and S100 Black SS: Pinnacle Souverän or Natty’s Blue Silver *Klasse AIO and Menzera FMJ. *Not a wax but a chemical cleaner JonM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazo Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Yes souveran is a great wax and will make a well prepped car* look stunning. My only reservation about this wax is durability although this affects 'ME' as a high mileage user and if you have a garage queen the souveran could be the perfect wax for you! *Ultimatly its claying followed by polishing that will give you the best results, yes you will need to use a 'wax' on top but applying a good wax to a poor paint surface won't give great results. You could say a wax will add the final 5-10% of any products that you use. For example if you clay, polish the paint and have a great surface to begin with then any wax including any wax from halfords will look good. From all the waxes I have tried souveran added the most in looks but I require a sealant for durability. Meguiars NXT tech wax below Clearkote vanilla moose and poorboys EX-P below Zaino z2 and zfx below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Souveran is awesome on black but durabilty is a problem lasts a few weeks . Nattys blue is pretty good and a whole lot cheaper . #16 is also good but require a good base and application technique. Wolfgang sealent adds great gloss as does optimum wax .. lots of choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Try Nattys blue - not far off Souveran and less than £15 a tub.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted October 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 cheers guys, just been given some Zymol Carbon, so will give that a go first and let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] cheers guys, just been given some Zymol Carbon, so will give that a go first and let you know [/ QUOTE ] I use Carbon - It's fantastic stuff IMO. Just don't use TOO much!! Use a foam pad and just smear it over the panel. Half a light turn in the pot will be enough for a door. I take a light pass with some cotton stockinette and then finish with a Microfibre. Lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted October 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Thanks for the tip Avus Bub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I'm poor and simply use Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine, seems to work good IMO. Is this worng?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Thanks for the tip Avus Bub! [/ QUOTE ] Hey no problem - I think it's a common mistake when people use it for the first time, they use it like a liquid and waste loads while making a right pigs ear of the car at the same time......... I was lucky when I bought my first Zymol at Goodwood 5 years back the guy gave a good demo' and answered my questions. [ QUOTE ] I'm poor and simply use Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine, seems to work good IMO. Is this worng?? -------------------- B6 S4 V8, Brilliant Black, Alu Trim, BOSE + Symphony II, Solar Sunroof, 3" S/S AAS Cat Back System [/ QUOTE ] P G - I can see why you're saving the pennies on car care............................... Not an issue with me BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Nowt wrong with UDS mate - not used it myself but have heard mixed reports about its ease of use. TBH, once you've got the prep sorted then I really don't believe that final wax makes a huge difference - having tried a "few" waxes myself, I can't see a massive improvement between P21S, Souveran, Nattys blue etc - then again I've put a few hours into the paintwork of my black car to put mildly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I've read that spending time on the polishing phase, especially on a black car, can reap dividends. So far, with my car being brand new, I have just been washing with Soft Wash Gel and finishing off with Cleaner Wax. (The stuff I got in a cleaning kit from clean and shiney.) Bearing in mind the application of the wax, do I need to remove it before polishing? Or can I simply wash the car, polish, then wax? BTW I've just taken delivery of some NXT products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I'm poor and simply use Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine, seems to work good IMO. Is this worng?? -------------------- B6 S4 V8, Brilliant Black, Alu Trim, BOSE + Symphony II, Solar Sunroof, 3" S/S AAS Cat Back System [/ QUOTE ] P G - I can see why you're saving the pennies on car care............................... Not an issue with me BUB [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I'm broke after shelling out for an S4, its for typing lessons, just seen how sh!te it is! That and the bills I'm going to have repairing the damage 's who decide to key my car in a sign of appreciation cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I use Swissol Shield. It works for me but then I try and not look at other products because invariably they do the same job ... for much less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SL26UK Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Can u use NXT Tech Wax on Metallic/Pearl Effect cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazo Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Can u use NXT Tech Wax on Metallic/Pearl Effect cars. [/ QUOTE ] Yep you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SL26UK Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Thx for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Swissol Onyx Need i say more,( picture heavy. ) when pots finished im going to try the next step up Swissol Saphire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 That's with Clearkote Red Machine Glaze, Wolfgang & Souveran and polished with SSR2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted October 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Nice lads OK so I have tried the Zymol. A week ago I did half the bonnet with it and the other half with NXT Tech Wax, after having washed, clayed, HD Cleansed amd polished with Stage 2. In my opinion, neither stands out in terms of finish, but the NXT is way easier to apply, even with very thin coats of both. The NXT seems to bead easier as well and when I washed today, the sponge seemed to glide better on that half (could be my brain is biased by the gorgeous smell of NXT ) I will give it another week or two and report again on the results, but so far I have to say I am very impressed with the NXT, particularly when you look at ease of use and the price difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Here are my meager results with clay bar and Autoglym UDS... [image][/image] [image][/image] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted October 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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