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I'll have a look, if I do actually bother. I'm not shopping for sill covers in particular, I just fancied these when I saw them.

I don't really like the oettinger kits or wheels to be honest, but I've heard they have a very good tuning reputation (and 518bhp out of a B5 RS4 sounds gooooooooood 169144-ok.gif)

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As you are asking....IMO you should only have badges etc which are true to what you actually have on the car. In other words you shouldn't have any oettinger badging unless your car has something oettinger such as alloys or bodykit or tuning.

Would you have a Tyresmoke sticker (if you could get one!!) on your car if you weren't a TSN member? - I think not. Imitation anything is chavvy.

Bling is similar to chav but not exactly the same. Nite, nite ZZZ.gif

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This is the thing. I like the sill covers, particularly on a silver car sekret.gif

But I quite like oettinger stuff and I think it's up there with the respected mods like Milltek etc.

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YES WHEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THEIR PRODUCTS ON YOUR CAR smashfreakB.gif

Oh pleeeeeeeease dont Chav that car! crazy.gif

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But lets say those sills were on the car.. then it WOULD have some of their products on the car. Catch 22.

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Nah, it doesn't work like that.

Lets say someone has a BMW 316i. And they put an M badge on it. And you asked them what "M" equipment the car was fitted with, and they said "err, well the badge", what would you think?

If you had an oettinger prepared car then subtle oettinger sill plates would look great.

Otherwise it's all a bit "fake Rolex".

It's not the sill plates that are chavvy, it's pretending you're something you're not. Think Corsa 1.4 with a quad exhausts in the hope people will think it's some ultra performance car. Same sort of thing. Quad exhausts fine on a BMW M5, not fine on a Corsa.

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It's not the sill plates that are chavvy, it's pretending you're something you're not. Think Corsa 1.4 with a quad exhausts in the hope people will think it's some ultra performance car. Same sort of thing. Quad exhausts fine on a BMW M5, not fine on a Corsa.

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No.

I think he likes the look/design of them, so what's wrong with that.

Similarly quad exhausts can look great on some cars. Robin's GTI looks great from the rear for example.

We all know exhausts make hardly any difference to performance, but then neither do sport bodykits (on road cars off the track)

...and how many millions of road users have one of those!!!

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Because they're advertising the car as being something it's not. Robins quad exhausts are on a performance car, and thats fine. But imagine if he'd put them on a 1.0 litre Polo, then what would you think?

It's not about the looks, it's about the pretence. Sill plates are fine if thats what you like. Sill plates suggesting that the car is Ottenger enhanced when clearly it isn't, isn't.

In the same way a big wing on the back of a Lamborghini Countach looks ace, bit the same wing on an otherwise bog standard 998cc Metro doesn't.

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Because they're advertising the car as being something it's not. Robins quad exhausts are on a performance car, and thats fine. But imagine if he'd put them on a 1.0 litre Polo, then what would you think?

It's not about the looks, it's about the pretence. Sill plates are fine if thats what you like. Sill plates suggesting that the car is Ottenger enhanced when clearly it isn't, isn't.

In the same way a big wing on the back of a Lamborghini Coutach looks ace, bit the same wing on an otherwise bog standard 998cc Metro isn't.

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Personally I think there's more pretense in the thousands of 318i's with M-bodykit's and A4 1.8T's with s-line bodykits!

But people buy them because they look cool, no other reason!

Seems you consider something chavvy if you do it yourself, but not chavvy if it comes direct from a factory like that! ROLLEY~14.GIF

e.g A4 DTM has huge exhausts, and they look gorgeous!

I don't see how they'd look any more or less gorgeous whether added by the owner or the factory.

As for nice, tasteful mods to small engined cars... I think they look great. Who gives a feck if their car is slower or not?

Most of the time, everyone's driving at the same speed in jams, or on the fast lane of the motorway anyway!

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It's not like they're proclaiming that oettinger have tinkered with my car and made it super-quick.. they're only door sills!

I still think they're nice coffee.gif

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The Oettinger sill plates have a fantastic effect on power Ben. It's called the placebo effect - you feel like the car's quicker, just because they're fitted.

Feck what everyone else thinks (esp. A_S) and stick them on. It's your money...

You could always get yourself some of these instead and your car will be even quicker:

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It's not like they're proclaiming that oettinger have tinkered with my car and made it super-quick.. they're only door sills!

I still think they're nice coffee.gif

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The Oettinger sill plates have a fantastic effect on power Ben. It's called the placebo effect - you feel like the car's quicker, just because they're fitted.

Feck what everyone else thinks (esp. A_S) and stick them on. It's your money...

You could always get yourself some of these instead and your car will be even quicker:

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I wonder if you can get Ferrari ones? That'd be better still surely? grin.gif

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Gentlemen! Is there any need to get so excited? It's a matter of personal taste. I don't see the point but have no problems with people who like them.

But Shark posted asking for people's opinions. Surely there shouldn't be any bickering when these opinions are given. confused.gif

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Seems you consider something chavvy if you do it yourself, but not chavvy if it comes direct from a factory like that!

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I think the "direct from the factory bit" legitimises a fair bit of possible "chaviness" eg I think the twin exhausts on my R32 are pretty borderline chav but acceptable as the car came with them but would definitely be chavvy if I had added them.

As it has twin exhausts I don't think it chavvy to have but (larger diameter) Millteks in their place - because they fit the valance but if I had put 6" outlets on the back I think I would be firmly in chav territory.

So I agree it is a matter a degree the more performance the car has the more "performance chav parts" that are accepatable before it crosses over to full chav ie would be more leeway in chavving up an RS4 despite it already being in some ways further down the potential chav scale in terms of unnecessary additions (but still possible) that an A4 18.T.

Back to the sill plates - although they do look nice I think in the context they are a bit chav due to the lack of Oettinger parts on the car

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