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When I was 17 I had a friend who bought a standard Metro and shoved a 1.5 Allegro engine in it.

Now you may laugh, but after he'd finished adding huge carbs, filter, exhaust....and one of the earliest NOS kits (must have been) - it bloody well flew!

The best thing I recall in it was a Peugeot 1.9 GTi going past and flicking the V's. My friend hit the throttle (no NOS to do this) and caught him up...with the GTi driver looking rather surprised.

Then, as we hit the Parkway at Middlesbrough the GTi driver gave it the full whack...only to watch us disappear up the incline and into the sunset as my friend turned the NOS on and up...

It lives with me as a moment to cherish in motoring memory - his face was an absolute picture.

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When I was 17 I had a friend who bought a standard Metro and shoved a 1.5 Allegro engine in it.

Now you may laugh, but after he'd finished adding huge carbs, filter, exhaust....and one of the earliest NOS kits (must have been) - it bloody well flew!

The best thing I recall in it was a Peugeot 1.9 GTi going past and flicking the V's. My friend hit the throttle (no NOS to do this) and caught him up...with the GTi driver looking rather surprised.

Then, as we hit the Parkway at Middlesbrough the GTi driver gave it the full whack...only to watch us disappear up the incline and into the sunset as my friend turned the NOS on and up...

It lives with me as a moment to cherish in motoring memory - his face was an absolute picture.

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I love stories like this, It's what your teens were all about..... And of course pulling chicks tongue.gif

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When I was 17 I had a friend who bought a standard Metro and shoved a 1.5 Allegro engine in it.

Now you may laugh, but after he'd finished adding huge carbs, filter, exhaust....and one of the earliest NOS kits (must have been) - it bloody well flew!

The best thing I recall in it was a Peugeot 1.9 GTi going past and flicking the V's. My friend hit the throttle (no NOS to do this) and caught him up...with the GTi driver looking rather surprised.

Then, as we hit the Parkway at Middlesbrough the GTi driver gave it the full whack...only to watch us disappear up the incline and into the sunset as my friend turned the NOS on and up...

It lives with me as a moment to cherish in motoring memory - his face was an absolute picture.

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That's great!!

sekret.gif Now imagine one with the same engine as the MGF

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When I was 17 I had a friend who bought a standard Metro and shoved a 1.5 Allegro engine in it.

Now you may laugh, but after he'd finished adding huge carbs, filter, exhaust....and one of the earliest NOS kits (must have been) - it bloody well flew!

The best thing I recall in it was a Peugeot 1.9 GTi going past and flicking the V's. My friend hit the throttle (no NOS to do this) and caught him up...with the GTi driver looking rather surprised.

Then, as we hit the Parkway at Middlesbrough the GTi driver gave it the full whack...only to watch us disappear up the incline and into the sunset as my friend turned the NOS on and up...

It lives with me as a moment to cherish in motoring memory - his face was an absolute picture.

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That's great!!

sekret.gif Now imagine one with the same engine as the MGF

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It would have broken down. coffee.gifgrin.gif

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Speaking of engine transplants....

We once had a Pug 106 1.5 D company car at work. We bought it to use on one job that meant it would live parked up in the fast lane of the M61 (coned off of course) and would be driven by up to 30 different people in one day. It was a 5 door, red one and it was about 5 years old when we bought it for something like £2500. We bought it as it had all the fixings for the orange lights wired in and a good CB radio set up etc. Imagine the shock when it broke down and we called the AA out:

<AA Man lifts bonnet>

AA Man - Can you see something odd there?

Work mate - Whats that then?

AA Man - That's a fecking 1.9 litre diesel engine

Work mate - Right, cool.

AA Man - And it's got 'CITROEN' written all over it - literally!!

Mid life engine transplant with a 1.9 out of Citroen ZX apparently!!

The legend of the red 106 lives on.

We sold it when the clock got to 240k in 2002!! Apparently for use by a student travelling to Leicester once every few weeks! Only an R plate though so probably still plodding on.

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Was that with or without the head gasket...?

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It currently still has it....

.... For now... sekret.gif

Early K-Series aren't even prone for it, so if you get an early 1.6 K it should be ok. I say should.

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Its all to do with the location of the engine. Its fine in the caterham setup because of the postion of the engine.

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Rover K-series HGF

The main reason that rover K-series tend to blow head gaskets is because the thermostat is in the wrong place, and cannot sense the engine temperature correctly. So the engine gets rather hot, and then when the thermostat opens (too late) it pumps a load of cold water in to the hot engine, causing the block to warp and move. Breaking the seal of the HG.

The guys that rally MG ZRs basically drill a few holes in the thermostat to keep the temperature down, and I belive that land rover developed a head gasket kit that went a long way to fixing the problem.

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On the topic of debadging, I always tend to want to keep what was on the car as standard, or when I got it. My pervious Metro had 1.1 S badges on it, but my latest one only has the 'Metro' badge on it.

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<AA Man lifts bonnet>

AA Man - Can you see something odd there?

Work mate - Whats that then?

AA Man - That's a fecking 1.9 litre diesel engine

Work mate - Right, cool.

AA Man - And it's got 'CITROEN' written all over it - literally!!

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Christ, I that must have been a tight squeeze. EEK2.GIF

That means it is possible to fit the ZX Volcane engine into a 106 S2 then.....

Ian

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Moving on from another post...

People who debadge cars.

You could say they do it because they want to be stealthy - but most such cars are given away by plentiful other factors IMO. confused.gif

You could say that people with lower end cars do it so others don't know what the car is - but then again if they don't know what it is by the other tell tale signs, then why would they be bothered anyway?

Basically, I just don't get debadging!

What do we think?

BTW - if you vote to debadge a car to remain more stealthy - can you genuinely tell me why! I mean, there are usually loads of other giveaway signs. Wheels, exhausts, styling, colour schemes, you name it. Anyone who spots the car would know anyway. Or, if they needed a badge to know, they'd surely not giving a flying feck anyway! I'm just curious to see the other side of this one, cos' I don't get it at all!

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I'm thinking in debadging, but my reason is not listed as an option.

My reason is: car looks cleaner and lines/curves from the rear show better w/o badges smile.gif

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Blimey, this is an old thread, not sure how I missed it first time round. confused.gif

Anyway, the W12 had a model and engine debadge from the factory. I wanted the engine size gone because having a 6.0 badge on the back end is just asking nutty eco-warriors to key your car (which will actually cause more environmental damage as you then have to have it resprayed in a workshop without the sophisticated emissions control of the factory...), and I thought A8 on it's own looked a little daft.

The RS 6 and S8 were badged, but didn't show off their engine sizes (I'd have had them debadged if they did), so I'll probably leave the S8 badged on the back and see if I can get the rather naff V10 badges taken off the front panels.

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I debadged my Mk2 Golf GTI 16v (well it used to be) when I got it resprayed and also removed all of the side trims, rear wiper, hatch spoiler, hatch handle & lock and converted it to solenoid release etc, purely because I wanted a clean look. Makes it much easier to clean/wax! cool.gif

I wasn't trying to mask its identity or improve a lesser car. There wasn't any need to (as there's a 300bhp 20vT under the bonnet)! FIREdevil.gif

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i don't get it either, may be ppl are shamed of the make of their car?? If you had a Ferrari, you'd not move the badge!

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That's not generally what people are talking about here though. Most would keep the Audi rings, BMW propeller, Ferrari prancing horse etc. - what we're talking about is the model/engine size inscription, such as 645Ci, A8, 6.0 (or to take it to the other extreme - 1.6), V10, RS6 etc. etc.

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I'll probably leave the S8 badged on the back and see if I can get the rather naff V10 badges taken off the front panels.

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Do you not get a factory debadge option?

Easier to attach the S8 badges to a debadged car than partially debadge a badged car if that makes sense!

Ian

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