RedRobin Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Best to do at least 5,000 miles to settle your engine before any re-map. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Is this your opinion or a technical one. That makes no sense. Why let your enghine settle in at one setting only to change it. My last car was 'chipped' and thrashed from day one with no problem. [/ QUOTE ] ....Informed Opinion - From 2 independent tuners with over 15 years experience. My understanding is that it's better in the long term to let everything loosen up and settle and show up any problems (which can be dealt with without issue under warranty). Also, imo it's good to have time to appreciate the difference between your car as standard and re-mapped. But I know you are a young dude in a hurry . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifly Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 nhs: would advise to avoid beadles of bromley. As i said to the VW guy on the phone. I would only take my car bach there if it was on fire and would quite happily push it into the showroom for them to asess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] nhs: would advise to avoid beadles of bromley. As i said to the VW guy on the phone. I would only take my car bach there if it was on fire and would quite happily push it into the showroom for them to asess. [/ QUOTE ] Couldn't agree more. Bromley are a bunch of twits. You would get better service from the Chuckle Brothers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGTi Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Also been to a couple of stealers trying to get get a test drive in R32 you would think I was trying to steal the Crown Jewels from their reaction One even said that there was a 2 year wait for a new R32 which I bol***s. Needless to say Gilders @ Rotherham will not be getting any business. ..... Anybody recommend any good Yorkshire VW Dealers preferably with a R32 Demonstrator ? [/ QUOTE ] Had exactly the same problem with my local VW dealer in West Yorkshire....got told every excuse under the sun about not being able to have a test drive in an R32...twice ! So rather than give them my custom I saved a few bob and bought my GTi from Motorprovider in Sheffield (and very pleased I did too). You must live quite close to Motorprovider.....I should look them up if you don't find any willing dealers...they have had some R32's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblue Posted May 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Only tuner I have spoken to were Morego which I believe is a custom remap. They advised to leave it for at least 3000 miles for the reasons mentioned by Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblue Posted May 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Looks like it may involve a trip over the Pennines ... nearest one is Stockport. But it has got DSG which im itching to try out . Might be able to get over this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosapper Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Has anyone on here got the MOREGO 250 bhp chip on here, I read in EVO that it was a cracking upgrade but they did test it with the addtional fast handling upgrade as well. As mine is already running on 18' I don't really want to go any stiffer........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 [quote But I know you are a young dude in a hurry . [/ QUOTE ] Like the 'young' and 'dude' bit!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Has anyone on here got the MOREGO 250 bhp chip on here, I read in EVO that it was a cracking upgrade but they did test it with the addtional fast handling upgrade as well. As mine is already running on 18' I don't really want to go any stiffer........... [/ QUOTE ] ....Re suspension, I can recommend you check out Koni FSD plus Eibach Springs and Anti-roll Bars. The setup only lowers 5mm (to allow the Koni FSDs to perform at their optimum). Link to info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick12345 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Just got my GTI burns fuel like a racecar Garage have suggested 98 ron Have filled tank with same but do not notice any difference. Is the MPG supposed to be better. My GT TDI 140bhp did about 350 miles to a tank around town This one does 200 and its all gone. Any feedback would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 milage should improve as it runs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosapper Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 mmmm 7.5k done and still struggle at the 30-31 Mpg mark on a motorway trips, seems to really drink fuel at around 80mph which is the only downside of an otherwise cracking little car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Surely, although we would all like the best fuel economy we can get, we accept what this great car gives us. Performance always comes at the expense of fuel consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hmmm, Dare I challenge anyone to find an alternative 2.0 turbo engined petrol engine that can produce 200ps and deliver on average 30mpg? I think this engine is an absolute great alrounder - hence why it's won the engine of the year award for the second time! You'd have to cover a fair mileage to warrant 'chipping' to improve performance on grounds of cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Here, Here! TT Well said! Though my average is still mostly only 28mpg (and I don't mind one little bit!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I get uber good MPG on long motorway trips, mid 30's I got going along most of the A1 at 79.9mph When I give her some beans I get about 25mpg, when I REALLY go for it the figure is about 15mpg Always put in Super Unleaded, it's what she likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [ QUOTE ] mmmm 7.5k done and still struggle at the 30-31 Mpg mark on a motorway trips, seems to really drink fuel at around 80mph which is the only downside of an otherwise cracking little car. [/ QUOTE ] Mine is like this on a motorway journey - the norm to be expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosapper Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Try 225bhp from a turbo 1.8 from the same family and get an average of 32Mpg over a period of 12 months and 14k miles, and not motorway miles either. Both my 210bhp and 225 S3 and 225 TTr were suprisingly more economical whilst being heavier more powerful and lacking cc. It must be somthing to do with the gearing up at around 80 Mph the Mpg just drops away........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ....Interesting - I travel at 80 quite a lot, hence my relatively poor mpg. But I'm not re-mapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Try 225bhp from a turbo 1.8 from the same family and get an average of 32Mpg over a period of 12 months and 14k miles, and not motorway miles either. Both my 210bhp and 225 S3 and 225 TTr were suprisingly more economical whilst being heavier more powerful and lacking cc. It must be somthing to do with the gearing up at around 80 Mph the Mpg just drops away........ [/ QUOTE ] Could be, but 6th is quite high. Have you had your car checked out? Mine gets about 35mpg on a 79mph motorway run with some backroads and roundabouts, so not all constant speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Interesting thread - 90% to do with driving style and 10% with specific cars I would think. I'm running it in at the moment but over 190 miles it has averaged 34.9mpg - probably 70% motorway at 60,70 & 80mph. My initial impression is that you can accellerate the GTI with very little throttle pressure and still make rapid progress in normal driving conditions. Some people tend to not particularly drive fast but still wear lead boots and stay on the throttle until the last minute before applying the anchors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosapper Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 TT I think that we all out to have a look at what rpm we are producing at a steady 80mph and see if we are all running at around the same, I have even been knocking the Aircon off on some runs to see how much the Mpg improves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblue Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hi Robin, Read the thread on Koni FSD/Eibach springs sounds a very impresive set up The Morego suspension revisions arn't quite so radical but then again it is quite a bit cheaper. After speaking with them it basicaly involves loewering the ride hight by approx 10mm and fitting new front wishbones that alter the camber to a more negative setting which gives greater traction thus enabling it to handle the additional power whilst cornering. Does the Koni/Eibach set up acheive a similar result along with the reported superb damping control ? nb. I am not a suspension expert at all quite the opposite and would be interested in any more qualified TSN'ers views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
encee Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Hi Robin, Read the thread on Koni FSD/Eibach springs sounds a very impresive set up The Morego suspension revisions arn't quite so radical but then again it is quite a bit cheaper. After speaking with them it basicaly involves loewering the ride hight by approx 10mm and fitting new front wishbones that alter the camber to a more negative setting which gives greater traction thus enabling it to handle the additional power whilst cornering. Does the Koni/Eibach set up acheive a similar result along with the reported superb damping control ? nb. I am not a suspension expert at all quite the opposite and would be interested in any more qualified TSN'ers views [/ QUOTE ] Lazerblue: I can 100% echo what Robin has said here about the Koni`s and FSD`s, as I have tried them out on Awesome GTI`s own car, which has them fitted. Believe me, they are superb, and offer excellent damping, with increased comfort, but yet better grip and roadholding ! The only thing stopping me having it done is the bloody insurance (as usual). Because they class them as a performance modification, my premium would go up again, and, due to my re-map, it`s already £525. "Not bad", I hear you say, which it isn`t compared to what some are paying, but I believe the suspension mods would put it up around £600, and I can insure a standard E46 M3 for only £75 more (not really the point, I know, but that`s my reasoning for not getting the suspension mods done). Top and bottom of it mate, a re-map is great; increases both performance and fuel economy, and so are the suspension mods, which improve the handling even more. With both done, the GTI is one "helluva car". Enjoy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblue Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Lazerblue: I can 100% echo what Robin has said here about the Koni`s and FSD`s, as I have tried them out on Awesome GTI`s own car, which has them fitted. Believe me, they are superb, and offer excellent damping, with increased comfort, but yet better grip and roadholding ! The only thing stopping me having it done is the bloody insurance (as usual). Because they class them as a performance modification, my premium would go up again, and, due to my re-map, it`s already £525. "Not bad", I hear you say, which it isn`t compared to what some are paying, but I believe the suspension mods would put it up around £600, and I can insure a standard E46 M3 for only £75 more (not really the point, I know, but that`s my reasoning for not getting the suspension mods done). Top and bottom of it mate, a re-map is great; increases both performance and fuel economy, and so are the suspension mods, which improve the handling even more. With both done, the GTI is one "helluva car". [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the reply Just been reading the posts on the AP Racing brake kit sounds the Dogs Boll**s too. Too much information ... maybe Anyway got a test drive's this coming weekend in Gti DSG & Porsche Boxter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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