Dannyrado Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hey guys, I'm a new R32 owner, loving it loads. Great car! Problem is that i just can't leave it alone. I'd like to lower it, but only a little. I've seen PI springs that lower by 20mm. Is there anything wrong with these? Does anyone do a 15mm kit etc,etc?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Danny. You can go down the route of just lowering the car, but you might want to consider uprating the suspension at the same time. You don't mention whether you have a Mk4 or Mk5 R32, but KW do three kits, the Variant 1, 2 or 3. All available from www.bigboyztoys.co.uk or www.awesome-gti.co.uk - the V2 and 3 will let you drop the car by up to 30mm. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Thanks Mook, it's a mk4 as it says in the post!! I just thought that 30mm may be a little too low for me, i've come from a corrado which was on the floor, so am glad of the refinement. Has anyone tried the 20mm kits?? Does anyone have any comparison pics, or is anyone any better with photoshop than me?? I take it the KWs come highly recommended, i had FK highsports on my Rado, thought they were excellent, can't really justify the expense though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I must have missed the mention of the Mk4 bit in your original post - 1,400 miles of Scumball in a 200 decibel Scirocco is still doing my head in The KW kits are variable height adjustable. I run 15mm lower at the front and 20mm lower at the rear to balance out the height front to rear to improve the handling. Have a chat with the guys at BBT and Awesome. They should be able to give you a solution within a budget you set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Ok, got some H&R lowering springs coming soon. (-25 to 30mm i believe) Did i see a thread mentioning tyrewear due to camber on lowered R's?? If so was a solution something like swapping top for bottom/bottom for top? Also is that front/rear wheels or both?? Forgive me if i'm wrong and sound like a nutmeg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme86 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I posted a thread on the German R 32 forum and on the German Golf IV forum about this and am still seeking concrete information. They seem to get the transverse control arms off of the "heavy duty" 4motion suspension (which is the factory raised version), and then reverse them - top on bottom and bottom on top. No one has given definitive part numbers of the control arms used and how much it corrects toe and camber precisely. A couple of guys mentioned Skoda arms work as well. This is what I have found out so far: I have the standard equal length rear arms fitted (1J0 505 323 L top and bottom). There are others available from VW/Audi 1J0 505 323 N fitted to lower arm of Audi TT 3.2 (top uses 1J0 505 323 L) On 4 motion with heavyduty suspension they fit: Top: 1J0 505 323 M Bottom: 1J0 505 323 N My arms are 517 mm measured from middle of bolt to middle of bolt. Has anyone fitted Audi TT arm on top to correct camber / toe?. I believe it is 521 mm long. Is the "M" version shorter or longer?(and better?) Are Skoda different? All information greatly received! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Thanks for the reply, we'll wait and see if anyone knows! Starting to wonder whether 30mm may be too low. I'm sure i've heard scrubbage, with standard ride height, one person in the back, when you throw the car into second gear?? Has anyone else done 30mm?? Experiences?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Check this thread - I knew it was around somewhere. The best option to set your rear camber back to what it should be is to use adjustable tie-bars. Forge and Neuspeed do them. If you scroll down to about the fifth post, I included some pics of what they do and how. 30mm lower should be fine, but you'll possibly find the front wheels will foul in inner arches. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme86 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Not an option here as they are illegal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Yes, officer. If you just take a look under the car at the top rear tie-bars, you'll find I'm running fully adjustable ones... So do people live with negative camber in Aus, or do you have to get fixed length tie-bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme86 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I think most just put on the eccentric rear bush kits with the poly bushes and use the standard arms. Not many have actually lowered their cars here - the roads are pretty Personally, I would rather have something with the correct stock rubber bush as the suspension attachment is designed to work with the rubber supplying the compliance at the attachment point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Check 30mm lower should be fine, but you'll possibly find the front wheels will foul in inner arches. HTH [/ QUOTE ] Not too bothered about rubbing on full lock. What concerns me is when i'm taking friends to the airport (example) 4s up, with some luggage. Hope the rears don't rub. Think i'll get the springs fitted and suck it and see. Keep the OEM's just incase. With regard the tie-rods, may get em done same time, as it makes sense. Will let you know how well it all goes after my hols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 It's not about rubbing on full lock, because they won't. It's when the suspension is fully compressed (i.e. round a corner at full tilt) that you may find they rub on the inner arches at the top. You won't have a problem on the rear if you lower it 30mm, as long as you don't run spacers any wider than 10mm. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hey Mook, you been doing this a while then?? You seem to know your stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 If you go low enough the rest of us won't even have to look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 If you go low enough the tyres will rub on the wheel arches so much, even Lodrick will be able to keep up with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Got a CSL now have we ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyrado Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 [ QUOTE ] If you go low enough the rest of us won't even have to look at it [/ QUOTE ] Used to feel wierd in my Rado. The roof-line was at the window-line of most cars. Why i want to go down that road again i don't know!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Got a CSL now have we ....? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Hey Mook, you been doing this a while then?? You seem to know your stuff! [/ QUOTE ] Mook is the resident suspension, brake, anything else expert here - and does know stuff about stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 And RS32 is his live in fluffer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 cheers Woppum must have been the that put me up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Twas only joshing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 [ QUOTE ] And RS32 is his live in fluffer! [/ QUOTE ] Wopps, I told you not to tell anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme86 Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Further update: I have bought the Audi TT lower arm ("N" version) which is 521 mm long. It comes with two notches on one end to identify it. It does not actually have the full part number stamped on it anywhere. I am going to install it on the top. We shall see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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