DuncS3 Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 my requirements for upgrading my suspension are these: lower the car about 20mm (but not make the car max power low rider style) stop body roll improve handling not to make the car any harder so it crashes over potholes and drains, as it does that already imo AMD and QST suggest Koni adjustable shocks and either MTM or H&R springs. Any one got any comments on this sort of setup. Both tuners said coliovers were too harsh for road use in their opinion...If my car ends up near the R32 handling i will be very pleased. Apparently the R32 uses Bilstein shocks and H&R springs? Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Mick Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Dunc I've got that exact setup (Konis & H&R). You've seen the car and how it sits. It's obviously a bit harder than standard but well worth it in my opinion. You'd be quite welcome to take it for a spin at some stage to see how it feels. Just a reminder on stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Mick your car is so clean! would you say big improvement over standard? I may be getting them fitted next Monday... Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Mick Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Mick your car is so clean! [/ QUOTE ] You wanna see it at the moment Dunno if "big improvement" is a little generous. I would say that it is quite an improvement. The car has less bodyroll and actually feels more planted on the road. It is when you drive the car how it is meant to be driven then the suspension setup seems to help in making the car feel more sturdy. Not too sure on oversteer etc...All I know is with the suspension/brake setup I feel more confident in driving the car to it's best potential Obviously this has sacrificed a little bit of ride quality but nothing too much. I don't even notice it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 oh well you can but try - if its as good as a R32 then I will have the desired result. They reckon the springs are 'progressive', firm up as you push the car? Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-S3 Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Dunc, i personally disagree with the opinion of both tuners u asked, Ive got H&R coilovers fitted to my car and in no way is the ride too harsh for the roads, in more ways its actually BETTER than the original setup. Ok its not as soft as the original but as with any form of lowering on a car it will make the ride harder. But in no way is it even slightly uncomfortable. You can easily have them set up to the desired ride height. The H&R setup is probably the best setup you can get for nearly any make of car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Mo - I have driven SitaS3s car, which has KW Coilovers and no way did i think that was too hard either. Sometimes its hard to tell if the advice you get is really impartial. Coilovers are approx 1100 quid though and I will not want to change the ride height as I simply wouldnt be bothered (or capable!) - thats the main benefit of coilovers isnt it? so will try the shocks and springs. Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracocha Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Hey Dunc, You could tell the difference in attitude between you car and Simons at Castle Coombe but in terms of ultimate lap times I doubt there was a lot in it (unless Nissan boy was in the way ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teejoo Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I have the Koni's and H&R springs (35mm) on my A3. The front shock are hardened by 1 full turn (max hardness is 2 full turns), and the rear shocks are on the softest setting. Body roll is greatly reduced (opposed to the standard A3, no sport suspension). The ride is harder, but is't still OK, after while when you 're used to it, you win't even notice it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Although its an A4, not an A3, but i've just upgraded to Koni shocks and springs all round........handles like a dream now, ride a little bouncier, but all round loads better (although my old shocks were knackered, so thats not difficult)..........cant recommend it enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 had mine fitted today, first impressions: front is perfect rear looks too low got to avoid them potholes now turn in is much better, but apart from that I have new brakes at the moment so I am taking it easy for now. Does anyone know what the H&R springs are meant to 'officially' lower the ride height by? Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 i belive 35mm becuse thats what i have fitted but only with the standard shocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 35mm? nice when I told AMD I was looking for a 20-25mm drop! Well I am having to pay for some spring spacers to be fitted to the rear of the car as its just too low to me. Maybe its the negative camber that makes it look worse? Overall handling is defenitely better. I can get used to the harsh ride, just need to sort the rears out. Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Mick Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Whoops! I wouldn't have minded hanging around to see the end product on Monday but needed to get back. Got any pics yet Dunc? Did it turn out as low as mine or lower? How does the negative camber look? Are AMD fitting the spring spacers? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopsta Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Mick you've changed your wheels again !!!! They look sweet by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Mick you've changed your wheels again !!!! They look sweet by the way [/ QUOTE ] I was just thinking that.. Mad or what?!? He's become the JR (RS246) of Tyresmoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Mick you've changed your wheels again !!!! They look sweet by the way [/ QUOTE ] I was just thinking that.. Mad or what?!? He's become the JR (RS246) of Tyresmoke [/ QUOTE ] Actually, those look like sportec's, and strangely, i think JR lost some sportecs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Bangs Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Mick you've changed your wheels again !!!! They look sweet by the way [/ QUOTE ] I was just thinking that.. Mad or what?!? He's become the JR (RS246) of Tyresmoke [/ QUOTE ] Actually, those look like sportec's, and strangely, i think JR lost some sportecs [/ QUOTE ] Actually they do look like sportecs but I'll bet my last pound they're MTM ones...summin to do with essex meets I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Mick Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Look at you lot! Yes they are Sportecs and no they're not JR's...My ones are baby ones. Only 18".... Went to AMD for a DV and happened to come accross these nice little alloys Gotta keep the "Essex Boy" image up aint I Besides everyone has got RSTT's or RS4's now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Besides everyone has got RSTT's or RS4's now [/ QUOTE ] I havn't....they are sooo last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Mick Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 [ QUOTE ] I havn't....they are sooo last year [/ QUOTE ] Exactly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulV Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hey DuncS3 How much did the new setup cost you if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncS3 Posted September 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 £900 fitted and wheel alignment etc Dunc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon elman Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Mick I like your wheels Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon elman Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Dunc You should of gone for coilovers SimonS3MTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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