steelwind101 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Doing a second coat of Zymol will only remove the first one. They are not low solvent pure waxes there for they cannot be layed. Also the EGP wont work work with the Zymol, the SRP is the better product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted December 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks steelwind101. So do not use the Zymol Cleaner Wax with the AG products then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Is 'Megs Step 2: Deep Crystal Polish' a sealant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Is 'Megs Step 2: Deep Crystal Polish' a sealant? [/ QUOTE ]After a bit of further reading I guess it isn't but the Megs Step 3 Wax would act as a sealant - is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is 'Megs Step 2: Deep Crystal Polish' a sealant? [/ QUOTE ]After a bit of further reading I guess it isn't but the Megs Step 3 Wax would act as a sealant - is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] Megs Stage 2 is more of a glaze than a sealant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Step 2 has no sealing abilities. Step 3 doesnt really either, its an LSP. You could but NXT in as your sealant and then top step 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Having just read another new thread about the Megs 3 stage kit I am thinking maybe that is not the way forward and buy some dedicated polish/cleaner, sealant and wax. For Sealant I am thinking Poorboys EX-P, Wax maybe Collinite 476 but am unsure on polish - maybe AG Super Resin or Megs Deep Crystal or Megs Gold Class Clear Coat Paste? Any thoughts on the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hi, When you say "polish" i dont know what you mean!! There are two types of polish. The first abrasive and at the lowest end would SRP, on the higher end a product like Poorboys SSR 2.5. Meguiars deep crystal polish is "pure" its just glazing oils, Meguiars Gold Class is a LSP. What would need is paint cleaner in there. So you could do: Poorboys Proffesional polish (or the blue one with carnuba, depending on the rest of your choice). Then EX-P, then to with collinite. You could do SRP -->> EGP (sealant) -->> Collinite, on your car "Mauritius Blue" i would probably top with Nattys Blue!! You could do: Wolfgang paintwork cleanser -->> Wolfgang sealant -->> Top with Collinite, or Max Wax for now and swap to just the sealant in the spring and then top with just Souvean in the Summer. On your car that would BE AWESOME!! You could do -->> Clearkote vanilla moose wax, mixed 50/50 with red moose machine glaze, then top with collonite. VM acutally hides swirls and chemically cleans the paint to. You could do -->> Duragloss paintwork cleaner and bond enhancer, plus Duragloss paint sealant and top with AquaWax. Enjoy!! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Thanks Geoff, I must admit being new to this, with all these products, I am still slightly confused by it all. Am I right in thinking that say every few months/twice a year I should wash/polish/seal and wax? If so it is the polish I am unsure on. I think for wash just Megs, then Poorboys EX-P for seal, then Collinite for wax so it is just the polish side I am confused on, os is SRP a good one still or is the Poorboys Pro Polish better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hi!! If your using something like Collinite you will only need to wax every few months or so. I would reapply all the products in the right order once every 4-5 months. Try and wash the car every few weeks. The poorboys polish has one advantage, if you are wanting a little extra Carnuba wax then you can get one with the extra wax in. I think as your using EX-P it wont make much difference. If you have SRP and you dont want to buy Poorboys pro. polish then SRP will be fine. Its really your choice!! You may well find that as spring and summer comes that you dont want to top your car with Collinite. EX-P is pretty good in its self. Certantly applying Collinite over the top will change the way it looks. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Try and wash the car every few weeks. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Geoff - washed weekly! [ QUOTE ] If you have SRP and you dont want to buy Poorboys pro. polish then SRP will be fine. Its really your choice!! [/ QUOTE ] My SRP is almost done, so I do need a replacement. A bit confused though as you say polish then SRP, but I thought SRP was the polish? [ QUOTE ] You may well find that as spring and summer comes that you dont want to top your car with Collinite. EX-P is pretty good in its self. Certantly applying Collinite over the top will change the way it looks. Geoff [/ QUOTE ] Is that applying Collinite over the EX-P over just over an existing coat of Collinite? How will it chage the way it looks? Sorry for all the questions and thanks for your continuing help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hello!! Sorry i probably over complicated things. Poorboys polish is just a paint cleaner. SRP will acutally attempt to remove some minor marks on the paint. Its not essential to polish the cars paintwork, some may even argue its very hard to do by hand. You certantly need the paint cleaning abilities of SRP or Poorboys pro. polish though before you lay down EX-P. EX-P is a pretty decent looking sealant, many people just stop at EX-P!! The Collinite will give you extra protection but might give you a warmer look then EX-P alone, it might darken the look of the paintwork too. Its not required to apply a wax over sealant. Many people who use 'Nuba waxes often choose to use a glaze and then apply there Nuba wax. Applying Collinite over EX-P will give you a very long lasting durable finish though. You may well find that you like the look of EX-P on its own and in the summer you can use just EX-P as there is less road salt and rain etc!! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Right thanks - think I get it, Polish with PB Pro then SRP, then Wax. Alternatively add a Glaze after sealing but before the Collinite? I assume this will give me a wetter look? What Glazes are good - I have heard that Clearkote Yellow Moose Wax is good? Acts more as a Glaze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hi, Its either Poorboys Pro Polish OR SRP. If you use SRP, using a glaze a will be pointless. It wont get absorbed in to the paintwork, it will just fill in the micro marks in the SRP finish. It might add alittle extra gloss but not to its full extent of its capability. I have had no experince Clearkote with Yellow moose wax, is it pure?? RMG is very good. This would well in combination with: Poorboys Pro Polish -->> GLAZE -->> Collonite. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks Geoff. What is better the SRP or the Poorboys. I read about the Yellow Moose Wax here. Thought the 350 was looking good! As to whether it is pure I really don't know - a pure what? I am suggesting to use it as a glaze oppsed to a wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hi If your going to glaze i would use the Poorboys World Pro Polish. Then you can use your Yellow Moose Wax, it is suppose to smooth surfaces, i think b/c it has lots of fillers. It looks good!! Then you can apply your nuba wax!! Are you going to quick detail after your washes?? If you spray a quick detailer to your car then it makes drying quicker and safer. It will also restore your car to that "just waxed" look or add some extra jazz to the paintwork. Great this time of year. 16 OZ will set you back between £6-£8. I recommened going to get by the gallon, my personal favorites are Poorboys Spray and Gloss and Clearkote Quik Shine. They also boast anti static properties which is great for reducing dust during the spring!! Geoff PS. Gallons (128 FL OZ) cost around £30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Hi If your going to glaze i would use the Poorboys World Pro Polish. [/ QUOTE ] Hi, so I am back to either the SRP or PB World Pro then? The apply the 476. Will certainly look into the QD, is this just a spray that apply apply and wipe of when drying? Can it be applied to a wet car? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsmith Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I aam a little confused over some of what ha been said above. Can we just clarify that the following is the correct order of products: Wash Clay Wash Paint Cleaner Polish Glaze Sealant Wax Obviously not necessarily using all of the above but, if you were to, that would be the order? Just that there was talk of applying a Glaze over the Sealant, above, and I was wondering if this was correct? Cheers guys and sorry to hijack the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Yes, that seems to be right to me - although I've never used a glaze and would probably apply the sealant right after polishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsmith Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 tbh I dont have any glaze either and hence never used it myself neither but thought I would include it in my list to make sure I had the right order. May well be getting some of the Wolfgang Glaze in the next few months as heard good things from it and it is the only thing missing from my WG collection! ;-) Very sad indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hi guys If your using a machine 90% of polishes will clean the paintwork too. If your going by hand you will most likely not be polishing so great straight to paintwork cleaner. SRP cleans, seals and gently polishes the paintwork. Personally if you have run out i would not bother buying more. Esp. if you are going to use a glaze. DONT GLAZE and use a sealant. Unless you are using a sealant that is not hindered by glazing oils. Chemicals Guys do a line up with a glaze that works with there sealant. Thats called Chemicals Guys EZ Glaze. I hope that helps!! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] If your going to glaze i would use the Poorboys World Pro Polish. [/ QUOTE ] Hi, so I am back to either the SRP or PB World Pro then? The apply the 476. Will certainly look into the QD, is this just a spray that apply apply and wipe of when drying? Can it be applied to a wet car? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 If your not glazing use SRP then 476. I posted a blue Jazz on here a while back with SRP -->> Megs #16. Apply the QD to the wet car as a drying aid. It will help disperse water. Your waffel weave towel will slide better and leave your car with some extra bling!! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahaydock Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks but if I do Glaze then the Poorboys Pro Polish then the Glaze? If so any thoughts on Glaze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hi!! Poorboys, then the glaze, no SRP. Um, the Yellow Moose seems to be quite good, i went on a little investigation after you mentioned it. I havent tried it myself. Red Moose is good. Megs. #7 requires more work but thats pretty good too. Pure Finishing Hand Glaze from Chemical Guys leaves the paint looking super wet!! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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