BigBill Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Had diesel A4s and A6s for the last 7 years and always got good economy. Averaged 38mpg overall from the last one, a A6 2.7tdi quattro tiptronic before moving up to the current Q7 3.0tdi quattro tip. Expected a dip in economy and wasnt dissapointed but still manage 34mpg on motorway runs and a good 28mpg overall for the 4k miles of country B roads, motorways and central london queues since I have had it. The fuel economy isn't going to be the painful part of the ownership of these cars - its going to be the tyres. My dealer reckons the average life of a set is going to be around 7-10k miles and this seem to be bourne out by experiences of other drivers seen on some forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 The Q7 is the worst car I've ever driven! I can't believe how sluggish the 3.0tdi is - its a pocket rocket in an A4 - but in a Q7 it's like driving a metro 1.1 And it handles like shite too. I'm amazed they sell any to be honest - especially with consumption figures like that from a diesel. ps. it doesn't improve much over time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 But the Q7 is a lot heaver than the A4, and do you really buy a Q7 for handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigR Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 NO After a spirited run in the bus yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lussac Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Has the fuel consumption increased or got worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcut Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I've had my 3.0 TDI Q7 for just over a year. It does NOT handle like a barge at all and making comparisons to an A4 saloon is absolute nonsense. Infact it hugs the road very well with minimal body roll and has tons of quattro grip. It is not a sports car obviously, but compared to other cars with similar weight/dimensions, it is as good as any. The acceleration in S mode is pretty good and gets better as you move up the rev range. This does impact on economy however. For the record, I average 28-30 mpg on A-road bias driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Surely anyone who buys a Q7 and then claims to be concerned about fuel economy is a bit simple? 28-30mpg is pretty impressive I'd have thought. (Welcome to TSN by the way ). As for Craig's spirited run - you're gonna have to slow down in March mate - there ain't that many petrol stations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcut Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Thanks for the welcome garcon - and spot on by the way. I used to have a diesel A6 that gave great fuel economy but it can't lug loads like my Q7 can (spot the family man). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I've had my 3.0 TDI Q7 for just over a year. It does NOT handle like a barge at all and making comparisons to an A4 saloon is absolute nonsense. Infact it hugs the road very well with minimal body roll and has tons of quattro grip. It is not a sports car obviously, but compared to other cars with similar weight/dimensions, it is as good as any. The acceleration in S mode is pretty good and gets better as you move up the rev range. This does impact on economy however. For the record, I average 28-30 mpg on A-road bias driving. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry mate, but we all have different opinions. In mine it DOES handle like a barge. I've driven plenty of 4x4s (X5, RR, XC90, Rav4 etc) and it handles much worse than any of them! In fact, I thought it was sodding dangerous. As for the brakes - they're a joke. The acceleration is dire compared to the competition. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Thanks for the welcome garcon - and spot on by the way. I used to have a diesel A6 that gave great fuel economy but it can't lug loads like my Q7 can (spot the family man). [/ QUOTE ] Q7 has poor boot space too. Nowhere near tall enough boot for a big dog. Welcome too btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantissimo Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 20mpg from a 2.7TDI? Something must be really wrong with it. I run an A6 2.7TDI quattro and do all B road driving to work with a nice country lane bit for about 8 miles as well. I have averaged 30mpg since the car was new and on a long run get well over 40 at motorway speeds. I also give it a good workout as I Iove the 4WD on those B roads, but if you are only getting 20mpg I would suggest its stuck in third gear or something. That is really bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcut Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Indeed a forum is all about opinions and hence I am responding to your email which I thought was off the mark. I too test drove the main competitors and found that the XC90 D5 is ponderous, the X5 is a better drive but not very spacious (and it's ugly), the Discovery has much more body roll and is slow 0-60. I think you'll find most reviews of the Q7 have said its roadholding is very good. Most of the criticism seems to be about ride quality and the physical dimensions. I've had no problem with the brakes and it grips the road around fast bends no problem (take a look at the review in What Car March edition...). No problem with my brakes either. I use my Q7 to move huge amounts of baby kit and disagree that the boot is small - compare it to an X5 or an ML for instance. You can also enlarge the space by sliding the 2nd row forward slightly and rolling back the luggage cover if you need extra depth. There's still plenty of legroom at the back. No car is perfect but I feel your hatchet job on the Q7 is a bit harsh to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Sorry mate, but we all have different opinions. [/ QUOTE ] And we all have different ar****les, and not many people want to see anyone elses one of those either! Personally, I can't see any problem with the Q7's handling or performance, for a car of it's size. I've driven both the V8 petrol and diesel Range Rovers, and they're positively supertanker in comparison to the Q7. What makes a huge difference to the Q7 is the tyres, and given Audi's habit of putting several brands of tyre on in the factory, and the variability of Audi dealer techs to inflate the tyres to the pressures printed on the fuel filler flap, every single test drive may feel different, even aside from personal preferences/bias. Some people like it, some people don't. I'm glad we don't all like the same thing - life would be boring if we did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addbuyer Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I get 26 as an average. Towing a caravan is 19 mpg which is worse than the Touareg V10 at 20 mpg. The Touareg also averaged around 26 mpg. Both chipped! Consumptions worked out by brimming the tank and refilling to the brim, its the only way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcut Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I get 26 as an average. Towing a caravan is 19 mpg which is worse than the Touareg V10 at 20 mpg. The Touareg also averaged around 26 mpg. Both chipped! Consumptions worked out by brimming the tank and refilling to the brim, its the only way [/ QUOTE ] Sounds about right as the official figure on combined cycle is 27mpg I think. On a related note, I think Audi should follow BMW's example and look to develop more fuel/CO2 efficient engines in subsequent updates. Or perhaps they think the Q5 will fill that requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigR Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 [ QUOTE ] As for Craig's spirited run - you're gonna have to slow down in March mate - there ain't that many petrol stations! [/ QUOTE ] strictly limited to 65mph then No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shab_k Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 i get an easy 20 mpg with town driving and 27-30 on the motorway 80-90mph have had a 34.1 on the motorway cruising at 56mph for 60 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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