Yahoo Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 How would a ramapped manual 330d compare to a stock 335d (bhp, torque and delivery characteristics, 0-60, 0-100)? A 330d can be ramapped to the same bhp and torque as a 335d. Considering there is a significant loss of power via the torque converter on a 335d, how would a manual mapped 330d compare without such losses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SamD Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] How would a ramapped manual 330d compare to a stock 335d (bhp, torque and delivery characteristics, 0-60, 0-100)? A 330d can be ramapped to the same bhp and torque as a 335d. Considering there is a significant loss of power via the torque converter on a 335d, how would a manual mapped 330d compare without such losses? [/ QUOTE ] It is certainly going to be different to drive. The 330d lacks the 2nd turbo so I would imagine a significantly remapped one might suffer from some lag? I suspect max torque/bhp might be available at higher revs (i.e. for less time), but I don't know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Well - I borrowed a 335d Coupe from a local dealer for 3 days and asked my brother to drive it and test it against my re-mapped 330cd (manual) The 335d is officially pumping 291bhp (i think) but in reality it's around 300bhp (feels allot more) and my 330d is good for around 270-280bho and 420Ib ft of Torque. I will be honest with you, The 335d was quicker off the line - I'd reckon at least 0.3 of a second to 60 and I would say about 1.5 seconds to a 100 - but for mid range punch they were pretty even stevens. Both of these facts, in my opinion, are down to the respective transmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahoo Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Thanks 330dCoupe, that is interesting. The reason I fancy getting a chipped 330d is because of the manual transmission. What is the manual like on a chipped 330d? Is it hard work or perfectly driveable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Thanks 330dCoupe, that is interesting. The reason I fancy getting a chipped 330d is because of the manual transmission. What is the manual like on a chipped 330d? Is it hard work or perfectly driveable? [/ QUOTE ] I have to admit, one thing that really concerned me pre re-map, was whether or not the clutch and gearbox would be able to handle the extra ponies and Torques. It's infact coped admirably. The gear change is as sweet as it was stock and with the extra torque, doesn't need changing down too often at round abouts and corners - 3rd is sufficient enough. I am hoping to upgrade my 330cd to a newer 335d M sport saloon next year but soooo wish they had a manual. A manual re-mapped 330d (E46 204bhp engine) is in my eyes the perfect drivers car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahoo Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Why not a manual e92 330d with a remap, or manual 335i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 "why not a manual e92 with a remap, or manual 335i?" The e92 is the coupe right? I did a little review of the new coupe for tyresmoke a little while ago and what I said then (i think!) was that the new coupe was a brilliant, brilliant car - great all round ability - but BMW seemed to have moved it away from the drivers car, which is the old E46 In my opinion. It's still got excellent poise and balance and goes like stink - but that little edginess and hard driving edge has gone for me. The e90 saloon still maintains the old cars magic - but like i stated earlier, the 335i and d versions only come in 'auto-trip' mode - which is the only shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pile Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The e90 saloon still maintains the old cars magic - but like i stated earlier, the 335i and d versions only come in 'auto-trip' mode - which is the only shame. [/ QUOTE ] The 335i comes standard with a manual ,you have to spec the Auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The e90 saloon still maintains the old cars magic - but like i stated earlier, the 335i and d versions only come in 'auto-trip' mode - which is the only shame. [/ QUOTE ] The 335i comes standard with a manual ,you have to spec the Auto. [/ QUOTE ] and the auto comes with paddles too. I'd only have a 335 with auto as it really suits the car/engine IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The e90 saloon still maintains the old cars magic - but like i stated earlier, the 335i and d versions only come in 'auto-trip' mode - which is the only shame. [/ QUOTE ] The 335i comes standard with a manual ,you have to spec the Auto. [/ QUOTE ] does it? not what that flippin dealer told me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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